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	<title>Comments on: Honesty In Comic Book Covers, #4 (The Bitter Edition)</title>
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		<title>By: Alexandre Soares</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandre Soares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read it, expecting for something fresh and new. And I didn&#039;t like it, unafortunately. A bit of superheroics on this title could make very good for this title. Do you remember? Villains, combat, adventure...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read it, expecting for something fresh and new. And I didn&#8217;t like it, unafortunately. A bit of superheroics on this title could make very good for this title. Do you remember? Villains, combat, adventure&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tavella</title>
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		<dc:creator>tavella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It’s a system that doesn’t exist, though! I mean, okay, it’s got huge dollops of confused real world allegory, but it’s not like buying THE ORDER would help fund Gitmo.&lt;/i&gt;

But that&#039;s just it; they used real world stuff as allegory and then said in the end &quot;people who lock people up in hell prisons without trial are heroes!  People who fake terrorist attacks to stampede the populace into doing what they want are wonderful!&quot;, and so on.

It&#039;s exactly the same as if you used all the tropes and metaphors from the civil rights struggle -- police dogs, firehoses,  teenagers lynched for registering people to vote, leaders shot down, people oppressed because of their color -- and then said &quot;Martin Luther King was wrong&quot; and launched a brand new title where the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/CCCitizens.asp?xpicked=3&amp;item=12&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CCC&lt;/a&gt; sponsors a group as poster kids for their victory.  Said kids may not be personally racist,  said book might be full of adorable wackiness, but it&#039;s still celebrating and promoting something vile, and I would say &quot;Fuck you and all your works.&quot;

Which is what I&#039;ve done to Marvel, with the exception of Thor and Iron Fist, which are currently managing to remain separate from the whole mess (Iron Fist is probably doomed once it gets back to Earth, sadly.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It’s a system that doesn’t exist, though! I mean, okay, it’s got huge dollops of confused real world allegory, but it’s not like buying THE ORDER would help fund Gitmo.</i></p>
<p>But that&#8217;s just it; they used real world stuff as allegory and then said in the end &#8220;people who lock people up in hell prisons without trial are heroes!  People who fake terrorist attacks to stampede the populace into doing what they want are wonderful!&#8221;, and so on.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s exactly the same as if you used all the tropes and metaphors from the civil rights struggle &#8212; police dogs, firehoses,  teenagers lynched for registering people to vote, leaders shot down, people oppressed because of their color &#8212; and then said &#8220;Martin Luther King was wrong&#8221; and launched a brand new title where the <a href="http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/CCCitizens.asp?xpicked=3&amp;item=12" rel="nofollow">CCC</a> sponsors a group as poster kids for their victory.  Said kids may not be personally racist,  said book might be full of adorable wackiness, but it&#8217;s still celebrating and promoting something vile, and I would say &#8220;Fuck you and all your works.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is what I&#8217;ve done to Marvel, with the exception of Thor and Iron Fist, which are currently managing to remain separate from the whole mess (Iron Fist is probably doomed once it gets back to Earth, sadly.)</p>
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		<title>By: PrettyFakes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The End of The Order</title>
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		<dc:creator>PrettyFakes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The End of The Order</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] UPDATE: This parody cover pretty much says it all. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CandidGamera</title>
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		<dc:creator>CandidGamera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Order would&#039;ve made it to my pull list if it hadn&#039;t been a spin-off of Civil War.</description>
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		<title>By: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Jan. 30, 2008: Emily Litella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Jan. 30, 2008: Emily Litella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] [Snark] Honesty in comic-book covers. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Evan Waters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a system that doesn&#039;t exist, though! I mean, okay, it&#039;s got huge dollops of confused real world allegory, but it&#039;s not like buying THE ORDER would help fund Gitmo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a system that doesn&#8217;t exist, though! I mean, okay, it&#8217;s got huge dollops of confused real world allegory, but it&#8217;s not like buying THE ORDER would help fund Gitmo.</p>
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		<title>By: PoisonMushroom.Org - Combing the Net So You Don&#8217;t Have To &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Points of Interest - 1/30/08</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoisonMushroom.Org - Combing the Net So You Don&#8217;t Have To &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Points of Interest - 1/30/08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Marvel: Always what you want. And by you, we mean [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tavella</title>
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		<dc:creator>tavella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, wacky bear punching fails to charm me when it&#039;s propaganda for a system I despise.</description>
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		<title>By: Master Mahan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Master Mahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This book did have a messy development history. As I understand it, this mutated from a Mark Millar pitch for the Champions as an all-god team of superheroes, which would certainly explain the redundant pantheon concept. Going for a while as Title To Be Determined wasn&#039;t much help either.

Which is not to say that people shouldn&#039;t have *checked it out*. Good lord, what the hell is friggin&#039; New Warriors doing still around when this book accomplished more in a single issue than that comic has in its whole run so far? 

The Order has giant turtles! Lesbians! Zombies! Bears! Russian midgets! Lesbians! The Nintendo Wii! A blonde pop princess who is actually likable! Government conspiracies! Talking swords! An entire gang of lesbians! What more do you people want?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This book did have a messy development history. As I understand it, this mutated from a Mark Millar pitch for the Champions as an all-god team of superheroes, which would certainly explain the redundant pantheon concept. Going for a while as Title To Be Determined wasn&#8217;t much help either.</p>
<p>Which is not to say that people shouldn&#8217;t have *checked it out*. Good lord, what the hell is friggin&#8217; New Warriors doing still around when this book accomplished more in a single issue than that comic has in its whole run so far? </p>
<p>The Order has giant turtles! Lesbians! Zombies! Bears! Russian midgets! Lesbians! The Nintendo Wii! A blonde pop princess who is actually likable! Government conspiracies! Talking swords! An entire gang of lesbians! What more do you people want?</p>
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		<title>By: tavella</title>
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		<dc:creator>tavella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The title DOES have a quasi-fascist &lt;/i&gt;

It certainly didn&#039;t help with me, given that &quot;The Order&quot; was the name of a real life murderous white supremacist gang back in the 80s.  Based and named after a group in William Pierce&#039;s eliminationist novel &lt;i&gt;The Turner Diaries&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The title DOES have a quasi-fascist </i></p>
<p>It certainly didn&#8217;t help with me, given that &#8220;The Order&#8221; was the name of a real life murderous white supremacist gang back in the 80s.  Based and named after a group in William Pierce&#8217;s eliminationist novel <i>The Turner Diaries</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Newberry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Newberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never picked up the book because to this point, Matt Fraction was far too &quot;hit and miss&quot; for my taste. When other readers ask my opinion of the man&#039;s work, I tell them &quot;Matt Fraction owes me twenty bucks.&quot; 

This is mostly because of Five Fists of Science, a work that I felt was ultimately mediocre and the five or six issues of Punisher: War Journal I picked up, which showed me the fun, playful side of Frank Castle. Maybe it&#039;s just me, but while there are certainly psychopaths out there who quip like Spider-Man in their manifestos, The Punisher probably shouldn&#039;t be one of them. 

Casanova was alright, but there&#039;s always been something about the book that just doesn&#039;t click for me... Absolutely love Gabriel Ba&#039;s artwork though. 

Anyway, maybe his writing style fits well with this group of all original characters, so I&#039;d be willing to check it out, but I&#039;m VERY hesitant to ever purchase the man&#039;s work again without giving it a full read first. Yet another example of why I should start bit torrenting comics and only buy the ones I really dig.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never picked up the book because to this point, Matt Fraction was far too &#8220;hit and miss&#8221; for my taste. When other readers ask my opinion of the man&#8217;s work, I tell them &#8220;Matt Fraction owes me twenty bucks.&#8221; </p>
<p>This is mostly because of Five Fists of Science, a work that I felt was ultimately mediocre and the five or six issues of Punisher: War Journal I picked up, which showed me the fun, playful side of Frank Castle. Maybe it&#8217;s just me, but while there are certainly psychopaths out there who quip like Spider-Man in their manifestos, The Punisher probably shouldn&#8217;t be one of them. </p>
<p>Casanova was alright, but there&#8217;s always been something about the book that just doesn&#8217;t click for me&#8230; Absolutely love Gabriel Ba&#8217;s artwork though. </p>
<p>Anyway, maybe his writing style fits well with this group of all original characters, so I&#8217;d be willing to check it out, but I&#8217;m VERY hesitant to ever purchase the man&#8217;s work again without giving it a full read first. Yet another example of why I should start bit torrenting comics and only buy the ones I really dig.</p>
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		<title>By: motteditor</title>
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		<dc:creator>motteditor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evan, I&#039;d argue that you didn&#039;t miss anything with NextWave, but it&#039;s definitely true that Marvel will pump promotion after promotion into its big-selling titles (FF, anything with a Spider or Wolverine) and just ignore half of it&#039;s second-tier titles. Is it any wonder that they don&#039;t sell well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan, I&#8217;d argue that you didn&#8217;t miss anything with NextWave, but it&#8217;s definitely true that Marvel will pump promotion after promotion into its big-selling titles (FF, anything with a Spider or Wolverine) and just ignore half of it&#8217;s second-tier titles. Is it any wonder that they don&#8217;t sell well?</p>
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		<title>By: GoatToucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoatToucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 01:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now &quot;Ass-Grabbing Fucktard Quarterly&quot;: THAT&#039;S a title I can get into!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now &#8220;Ass-Grabbing Fucktard Quarterly&#8221;: THAT&#8217;S a title I can get into!</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Lowery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Lowery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 01:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, consider me an ass-grabbing fucktard, because the title put me off and didn&#039;t give me cause to investigate further -- not until I heard about it from other sources. The title DOES have a quasi-fascist (or possibly quasi-mystical)... and I don&#039;t know about you, but I have better things to do with my time than investigate titles that &lt;i&gt;don&#039;t appeal to me&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, consider me an ass-grabbing fucktard, because the title put me off and didn&#8217;t give me cause to investigate further &#8212; not until I heard about it from other sources. The title DOES have a quasi-fascist (or possibly quasi-mystical)&#8230; and I don&#8217;t know about you, but I have better things to do with my time than investigate titles that <i>don&#8217;t appeal to me</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sam Rauch: I sincerely hope that&#039;s not the case, because it&#039;s especially fucking moronic. In this information rich age of previews easily available on all kinds of news sites, wikipedia, and torrents, there&#039;s -no- valid reason for that kind of ass-grabbing fucktardery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sam Rauch: I sincerely hope that&#8217;s not the case, because it&#8217;s especially fucking moronic. In this information rich age of previews easily available on all kinds of news sites, wikipedia, and torrents, there&#8217;s -no- valid reason for that kind of ass-grabbing fucktardery.</p>
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