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	<title>Comments on: Explaining Hollywood, Part Five</title>
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		<title>By: Carter</title>
		<link>http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2008/04/28/explaining-hollywood-part-five/comment-page-1/#comment-6455</link>
		<dc:creator>Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again, these are my favorite MGK productions. We need a book of just these.</description>
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		<title>By: karellan</title>
		<link>http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2008/04/28/explaining-hollywood-part-five/comment-page-1/#comment-6425</link>
		<dc:creator>karellan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why, for the love of god, does that story you link seem excited by this shit? It actually says &quot;How can you not chuckle at the manhole scene?&quot; Well, how about because it&#039;s not funny, and even if it were a little chuckle-worthy, the disgust generated by the preview up until that point drowns out any feelings of mirth that might present themselves for the next twenty minutes or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why, for the love of god, does that story you link seem excited by this shit? It actually says &#8220;How can you not chuckle at the manhole scene?&#8221; Well, how about because it&#8217;s not funny, and even if it were a little chuckle-worthy, the disgust generated by the preview up until that point drowns out any feelings of mirth that might present themselves for the next twenty minutes or so.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2008/04/28/explaining-hollywood-part-five/comment-page-1/#comment-6415</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ut!</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Galloway</title>
		<link>http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2008/04/28/explaining-hollywood-part-five/comment-page-1/#comment-6414</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Galloway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that bothers me about movies of this type (and I&#039;m including ones from both genders; as noted, this has similarities to Revenge of the Nerds) is that you look at the love interests of the leads and really there&#039;s no qualities other than looks or perhaps coolness/popularity that make them at all non-generic.  It&#039;s a feeling that they&#039;re all really dating down in terms of anything that really matters.

This is something I&#039;m finding sort of interesting in this TV season&#039;s Big Bang Theory, where a hot, not that bright, girl moves in across from two worldclass geeky physicists. One of them falls for her, but they&#039;ve been playing that down a fair amount...and as it happens, the girl&#039;s turned out to feel like the weak link in the show. I mean, the character&#039;s a nice enough person, and she&#039;ll sometimes help out the geeks with some social issues, but she&#039;s written as so generic that she&#039;s not that interesting in and of herself. And I think, consciously or not, the writers are realizing this as she now feels more at the level of supporting cast rather than co-lead and every other appearance by her feels forced. She really doesn&#039;t have anything in common with the geeks, and while they&#039;re not the types to spit at each other in the hallway, they really don&#039;t have any reason to hang out with each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that bothers me about movies of this type (and I&#8217;m including ones from both genders; as noted, this has similarities to Revenge of the Nerds) is that you look at the love interests of the leads and really there&#8217;s no qualities other than looks or perhaps coolness/popularity that make them at all non-generic.  It&#8217;s a feeling that they&#8217;re all really dating down in terms of anything that really matters.</p>
<p>This is something I&#8217;m finding sort of interesting in this TV season&#8217;s Big Bang Theory, where a hot, not that bright, girl moves in across from two worldclass geeky physicists. One of them falls for her, but they&#8217;ve been playing that down a fair amount&#8230;and as it happens, the girl&#8217;s turned out to feel like the weak link in the show. I mean, the character&#8217;s a nice enough person, and she&#8217;ll sometimes help out the geeks with some social issues, but she&#8217;s written as so generic that she&#8217;s not that interesting in and of herself. And I think, consciously or not, the writers are realizing this as she now feels more at the level of supporting cast rather than co-lead and every other appearance by her feels forced. She really doesn&#8217;t have anything in common with the geeks, and while they&#8217;re not the types to spit at each other in the hallway, they really don&#8217;t have any reason to hang out with each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Mc'ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mc'ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mariko your right!  I got confused with all the horror floating around after reading this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mariko your right!  I got confused with all the horror floating around after reading this post.</p>
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		<title>By: Kingfisher</title>
		<link>http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2008/04/28/explaining-hollywood-part-five/comment-page-1/#comment-6410</link>
		<dc:creator>Kingfisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damnit! I always forget until the very end that all of these are actually REAL.

And I was impressed by the lack of a Miller reference, if anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damnit! I always forget until the very end that all of these are actually REAL.</p>
<p>And I was impressed by the lack of a Miller reference, if anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Andre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah! I&#039;ve run out of outrage! Now I&#039;m down to a numb feeling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah! I&#8217;ve run out of outrage! Now I&#8217;m down to a numb feeling.</p>
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		<title>By: NCallahan</title>
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		<dc:creator>NCallahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s alright to have the ending about being yourself because what we&#039;ll learn over the course of the movie is that all women secretly yearn to be Playboy bunnies and any elements of your character that contradict this exist merely because you let yourself be *blinded*. If only their horrible friends and family didn&#039;t keep *encouraging* them to live up to *personal standards* and *ideals*...

&quot;I’m also disappointed that whores came up and Bird didn’t take a single crack at Frank Miller.&quot;

While I&#039;m sure his Goddamn Sense was tingling the entire time House Bunny was in production, Frank has more important Hollywood matters to worry about. The Spirit isn&#039;t going to become a shallow copy of Sin City all on its own.

(Okay, seriously, I&#039;m willing to give Miller the benefit of the doubt with The Spirit, I&#039;m sure there will be at least some good to come of it. I just got introduced to The Spirit during Darwyn Cooke&#039;s run, which is about as Anti-Miller as you can get and still be an Urban Noir setting.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s alright to have the ending about being yourself because what we&#8217;ll learn over the course of the movie is that all women secretly yearn to be Playboy bunnies and any elements of your character that contradict this exist merely because you let yourself be *blinded*. If only their horrible friends and family didn&#8217;t keep *encouraging* them to live up to *personal standards* and *ideals*&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m also disappointed that whores came up and Bird didn’t take a single crack at Frank Miller.&#8221;</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m sure his Goddamn Sense was tingling the entire time House Bunny was in production, Frank has more important Hollywood matters to worry about. The Spirit isn&#8217;t going to become a shallow copy of Sin City all on its own.</p>
<p>(Okay, seriously, I&#8217;m willing to give Miller the benefit of the doubt with The Spirit, I&#8217;m sure there will be at least some good to come of it. I just got introduced to The Spirit during Darwyn Cooke&#8217;s run, which is about as Anti-Miller as you can get and still be an Urban Noir setting.)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also disappointed that whores came up and Bird didn&#039;t take a single crack at Frank Miller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also disappointed that whores came up and Bird didn&#8217;t take a single crack at Frank Miller.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew W.</title>
		<link>http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2008/04/28/explaining-hollywood-part-five/comment-page-1/#comment-6396</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually find that part of the whole affair rather soothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually find that part of the whole affair rather soothing.</p>
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		<title>By: clay</title>
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		<dc:creator>clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the scary part is that the Bigwig is sane and smart, in that he knows exactly what he&#039;s peddling, but &lt;i&gt;he just doesn&#039;t care!&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the scary part is that the Bigwig is sane and smart, in that he knows exactly what he&#8217;s peddling, but <i>he just doesn&#8217;t care!</i></p>
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		<title>By: Mariko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, no, Three&#039;s the sane one.  Three is the only sane one. . .though if he stays there long enough, I doubt he will be able to maintain that sanity. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no, Three&#8217;s the sane one.  Three is the only sane one. . .though if he stays there long enough, I doubt he will be able to maintain that sanity. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Mc'ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mc'ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always dread your &quot;Explaining Hollywood&quot; segments.  They&#039;re true, and the movies are hideous.  Dear God, I thought junior exec. two was the smart one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always dread your &#8220;Explaining Hollywood&#8221; segments.  They&#8217;re true, and the movies are hideous.  Dear God, I thought junior exec. two was the smart one!</p>
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		<title>By: chenry</title>
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		<dc:creator>chenry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should&#039;ve known from last time that this would turn out to be a real movie.</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;maybe at the end of the movie, they find out that the key to happiness is being yourself, and not conforming to the nigh-impossible standards set for women by society?&quot;

For women, I agree, but this kind of message is kind of . . . . less than ideal. I can recall episodes of Fresh Prince or Family Matters where the show&#039;s unhealthily overweight character tries to lose weight, but eventually quits at the end of the episode because of the message &quot;be happy with who you are and don&#039;t conform to society&#039;s standards!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;maybe at the end of the movie, they find out that the key to happiness is being yourself, and not conforming to the nigh-impossible standards set for women by society?&#8221;</p>
<p>For women, I agree, but this kind of message is kind of . . . . less than ideal. I can recall episodes of Fresh Prince or Family Matters where the show&#8217;s unhealthily overweight character tries to lose weight, but eventually quits at the end of the episode because of the message &#8220;be happy with who you are and don&#8217;t conform to society&#8217;s standards!&#8221;</p>
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