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		<title>By: Geekiest Post Ever &#124; shop smart. shop S-mart.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geekiest Post Ever &#124; shop smart. shop S-mart.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rich        Tweet     The Mighty Godking has a bunch of superhero/supervillain alignments over on a post on their site. The post is a couple of months old but I missed it at the time (thanks, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rich        Tweet     The Mighty Godking has a bunch of superhero/supervillain alignments over on a post on their site. The post is a couple of months old but I missed it at the time (thanks, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: HonestObserver</title>
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		<dc:creator>HonestObserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A proposal. Do alignment chart motivational posters where all of the pictures are of really well-known famous people from history, and the quotations are all from comic book characters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A proposal. Do alignment chart motivational posters where all of the pictures are of really well-known famous people from history, and the quotations are all from comic book characters.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A proposal. Wonder Woman was Neutral Good, following a strict code of ethics but (traditionally) trying to change the male-dominated order, while fundamentally trying to protect life, etc etc.

But her intentionally snapping the neck of Maxwell Lord, even though it was apparently  her only option, was such a shock specifically *because* it was against her alignment.

As I remember the D&amp;D alignments, a character could do something outside of their alignment (free will) but only with a significant impact (psychic/emotional, and maybe changing alignment).

I would propose that act shifted her toward True Neutral (somehow, I feel like Superman would have found another option)... but I don&#039;t feel like traditional Wonder Woman could stay at True Neutral at all. She cares. She has a strict credo, even though she broke it in that extreme situation. So either she needs to atone for her action (e.g. by finding a way to limit superpowers - accepting Lord&#039;s case! - or by finding a way to ensure they can&#039;t be subverted as Maxwell Lord did), or she needs to fundamentally change her character, becoming more anarchic and less Good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A proposal. Wonder Woman was Neutral Good, following a strict code of ethics but (traditionally) trying to change the male-dominated order, while fundamentally trying to protect life, etc etc.</p>
<p>But her intentionally snapping the neck of Maxwell Lord, even though it was apparently  her only option, was such a shock specifically *because* it was against her alignment.</p>
<p>As I remember the D&amp;D alignments, a character could do something outside of their alignment (free will) but only with a significant impact (psychic/emotional, and maybe changing alignment).</p>
<p>I would propose that act shifted her toward True Neutral (somehow, I feel like Superman would have found another option)&#8230; but I don&#8217;t feel like traditional Wonder Woman could stay at True Neutral at all. She cares. She has a strict credo, even though she broke it in that extreme situation. So either she needs to atone for her action (e.g. by finding a way to limit superpowers &#8211; accepting Lord&#8217;s case! &#8211; or by finding a way to ensure they can&#8217;t be subverted as Maxwell Lord did), or she needs to fundamentally change her character, becoming more anarchic and less Good.</p>
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		<title>By: Mightygodking.com &#187; Post Topic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mightygodking.com &#187; Post Topic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s a stupid alignment. Most of the alignments are stupid. That&#8217;s why they&#8217;re fun. FLAPJACKS: You&#8217;re ruining this. ME: Wait, so lemme get this straight. First they made [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disregard that, my browser didn&#039;t load it.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to troll or anything, but you missed Neutral Evil.</description>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Set nerd engines to nerd factor 8.</description>
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		<title>By: harmony rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>harmony rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe not original but still good non the less</description>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 07:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why some people refer to Batman as Lawful Good.  He&#039;s a vigilante and as such doesn&#039;t obey all laws and shouldn&#039;t be considered Lawful. (I understand he has his own code, but it doesn&#039;t line up with society.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why some people refer to Batman as Lawful Good.  He&#8217;s a vigilante and as such doesn&#8217;t obey all laws and shouldn&#8217;t be considered Lawful. (I understand he has his own code, but it doesn&#8217;t line up with society.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are fantastic.  Superman one is my fave...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are fantastic.  Superman one is my fave&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Frankie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frankie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cannot...resist...urge...to...NERD OUT.

@Fluffy: Deathstroke is a meticulous contract assassin. I would call him NE.

John Constantine is a perfect CN. He bows to no one, flits in and out of people&#039;s lives on a whim, and has battled against both Heaven and Hell (even at the same time, on more than one occasion).

@CJ: No to both Two Face &amp; Batman. Chaotics often have quirky codes of conduct that they follow religiously. Lawfulness generally means respect for SOCIETY&#039;s laws, not just your own.

I agree with (and applaud) all 9 of MGK&#039;s choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cannot&#8230;resist&#8230;urge&#8230;to&#8230;NERD OUT.</p>
<p>@Fluffy: Deathstroke is a meticulous contract assassin. I would call him NE.</p>
<p>John Constantine is a perfect CN. He bows to no one, flits in and out of people&#8217;s lives on a whim, and has battled against both Heaven and Hell (even at the same time, on more than one occasion).</p>
<p>@CJ: No to both Two Face &amp; Batman. Chaotics often have quirky codes of conduct that they follow religiously. Lawfulness generally means respect for SOCIETY&#8217;s laws, not just your own.</p>
<p>I agree with (and applaud) all 9 of MGK&#8217;s choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Cracker Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cracker Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just one more thing...sense I&#039;m up anyway...I think a beautifully perfect example of LE is Two-Face...based on the same reason why Batman is LG...he has a set of guidelines that he will never, ever break...ok...now I&#039;m done</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just one more thing&#8230;sense I&#8217;m up anyway&#8230;I think a beautifully perfect example of LE is Two-Face&#8230;based on the same reason why Batman is LG&#8230;he has a set of guidelines that he will never, ever break&#8230;ok&#8230;now I&#8217;m done</p>
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		<title>By: Cracker Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cracker Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually thinking when I stumbled this list that Deadpool would be CN...kind of disappointed that he wasn&#039;t but whatever...

excellently put together...Spider-Man is and always has been my favorite super hero and I quite enjoy the quote going along with the NG...

I do have something to say on the whole Batman&#039;s not lawful thing...I&#039;m not sure if D&amp;D would agree with me on this but I and the people I game with have always believed lawful characters to follow a creed or set of morals that they absolutely under no circumstances will not break...this easily translates to following the laws but is broader than that...Batman is lawful because he has his rule that he won&#039;t...under any circumstances...break...he is dedicated to following his own set of guidelines...whether he works inside or outside the actual laws is inconsequential because he acts upon his own laws but they are unfaltering and will never change or be undermined...

that&#039;s my dose of nerdiness for the day...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually thinking when I stumbled this list that Deadpool would be CN&#8230;kind of disappointed that he wasn&#8217;t but whatever&#8230;</p>
<p>excellently put together&#8230;Spider-Man is and always has been my favorite super hero and I quite enjoy the quote going along with the NG&#8230;</p>
<p>I do have something to say on the whole Batman&#8217;s not lawful thing&#8230;I&#8217;m not sure if D&amp;D would agree with me on this but I and the people I game with have always believed lawful characters to follow a creed or set of morals that they absolutely under no circumstances will not break&#8230;this easily translates to following the laws but is broader than that&#8230;Batman is lawful because he has his rule that he won&#8217;t&#8230;under any circumstances&#8230;break&#8230;he is dedicated to following his own set of guidelines&#8230;whether he works inside or outside the actual laws is inconsequential because he acts upon his own laws but they are unfaltering and will never change or be undermined&#8230;</p>
<p>that&#8217;s my dose of nerdiness for the day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fluffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fluffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 00:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like I&#039;m really late to this discussion... but I wanted to leave an opinion I&#039;ve had for a long time, as my favorite representative of Chaotic Neutral:

Deathstroke the Terminator. 

He has a code, which is not terribly good, nor evil, certainly isn&#039;t legal, but he follows it anyway.  I find it to be a good contrast to the &quot;Chaotic Neutrals are insane&quot; memes that float around.

I&#039;m not that familiar with Constatntine, alas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like I&#8217;m really late to this discussion&#8230; but I wanted to leave an opinion I&#8217;ve had for a long time, as my favorite representative of Chaotic Neutral:</p>
<p>Deathstroke the Terminator. </p>
<p>He has a code, which is not terribly good, nor evil, certainly isn&#8217;t legal, but he follows it anyway.  I find it to be a good contrast to the &#8220;Chaotic Neutrals are insane&#8221; memes that float around.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not that familiar with Constatntine, alas.</p>
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		<title>By: desmond1323</title>
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		<dc:creator>desmond1323</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All these are very great...I personally love the Neutral Good quote, that epitomizes everything I play for when I choose Neutral Good...which is always!

Pretty much for all the characters I know anything about (everyone &#039;cept Red Skull, Cerberus, and Constantine) I totally agree with.
Lawful Neutral, Lawful Evil, Chaotic Good, and Chaotic Evil are 100% perfect.
Superman and Spiderman are great choices...though perhaps not the best...

vonDread says Batman is the epitome of LG?
No.  No way in hell.
First and foremost, Batman is a vigilante...means he breaks the law to do good.
It&#039;s super nerdy, but I&#039;ve had hours long discussions on trying to place Batman...
Our decision?  Batman is his OWN alignment.

Also, whoever says Neutral and Chaotic are hard to distinguish from are plain wrong.  Neutral characters, played properly, tend to follow the law...but it doesn&#039;t bother them to break it if it serves their needs (based upon Good/Neutral/Evil).  Chaotic players, however, tend to go out of their way to bother the established law and order...they derive pleasure from it.
Had that argument with a new player a while back...joined with a Neutral Good character, but then started going out of his way to play tricks on a rich businessman he didn&#039;t like...so he got an alignment shift to Chaotic, much to his displeasure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these are very great&#8230;I personally love the Neutral Good quote, that epitomizes everything I play for when I choose Neutral Good&#8230;which is always!</p>
<p>Pretty much for all the characters I know anything about (everyone &#8216;cept Red Skull, Cerberus, and Constantine) I totally agree with.<br />
Lawful Neutral, Lawful Evil, Chaotic Good, and Chaotic Evil are 100% perfect.<br />
Superman and Spiderman are great choices&#8230;though perhaps not the best&#8230;</p>
<p>vonDread says Batman is the epitome of LG?<br />
No.  No way in hell.<br />
First and foremost, Batman is a vigilante&#8230;means he breaks the law to do good.<br />
It&#8217;s super nerdy, but I&#8217;ve had hours long discussions on trying to place Batman&#8230;<br />
Our decision?  Batman is his OWN alignment.</p>
<p>Also, whoever says Neutral and Chaotic are hard to distinguish from are plain wrong.  Neutral characters, played properly, tend to follow the law&#8230;but it doesn&#8217;t bother them to break it if it serves their needs (based upon Good/Neutral/Evil).  Chaotic players, however, tend to go out of their way to bother the established law and order&#8230;they derive pleasure from it.<br />
Had that argument with a new player a while back&#8230;joined with a Neutral Good character, but then started going out of his way to play tricks on a rich businessman he didn&#8217;t like&#8230;so he got an alignment shift to Chaotic, much to his displeasure.</p>
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