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		<title>By: Dierna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dierna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wikied Evan Bayh as I&#039;ve never heard of him before. Oh oops excuse me I wikied BIRCH Evans Bayh III.  3 generations of people named after a relative of the Oak tree.....He&#039;s got twin sons, Birch IV (nicknamed Beau) and Nicholas Harrison. Yes that&#039;s right...he continued on the tradition of naming boys after a tree....

Please note that Birch Bay is a place in Washington State.  So not only is there generations of politicians (his dad ran for president in 1976 against Jimmy Carter. Yes that&#039;s right...a tree lost to a peanut farmer) named after a tree....but a place in Washington State.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birch_Bay

Buut I don&#039;t think he&#039;ll be Obama&#039;s running mate since apperantly he&#039;s FOR the war while Obama is against.

&quot;Bayh was an early supporter of the Bush administration&#039;s policies on Iraq. On October 2, 2002, Bayh joined President George W. Bush and Congressional leaders in a Rose Garden ceremony announcing their agreement on the joint resolution authorizing the Iraq War, and was thanked by Bush and Senator John McCain for co-sponsoring the resolution.&quot;

As for his political views. He&#039;s a pro-choicer, voted NO to ban gay marriage, appears to flip flop when it comes to environmental issues &quot;Voted No on prohibiting eminent domain for use as parks or grazing land (Dec 2007). Voted Yes on including oil &amp; gas smokestacks in mercury regulations (Sep 2005). Rated 74% by the LCV, indicating pro-environment votes (Dec 2003). Voted No on confirming Gale Norton as Secretary of Interior (Jan 2001). Voted No on more funding for forest roads and fish habitat (Sep 1999)&quot;.

I&#039;d like him if he wasn&#039;t a flip flopper for the Environmental stuff.  But then again...I agree that he could and probably should be punched in the face. And this coming from somebody who likes John Edwards (even IF he cheated on his sick wife....so what? McCain did the same thing and ended up marrying the woman he cheated on his wife with... a woman who&#039;s CEO of one of the largest distributers of Budweiser in North America...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wikied Evan Bayh as I&#8217;ve never heard of him before. Oh oops excuse me I wikied BIRCH Evans Bayh III.  3 generations of people named after a relative of the Oak tree&#8230;..He&#8217;s got twin sons, Birch IV (nicknamed Beau) and Nicholas Harrison. Yes that&#8217;s right&#8230;he continued on the tradition of naming boys after a tree&#8230;.</p>
<p>Please note that Birch Bay is a place in Washington State.  So not only is there generations of politicians (his dad ran for president in 1976 against Jimmy Carter. Yes that&#8217;s right&#8230;a tree lost to a peanut farmer) named after a tree&#8230;.but a place in Washington State.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birch_Bay" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birch_Bay</a></p>
<p>Buut I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;ll be Obama&#8217;s running mate since apperantly he&#8217;s FOR the war while Obama is against.</p>
<p>&#8220;Bayh was an early supporter of the Bush administration&#8217;s policies on Iraq. On October 2, 2002, Bayh joined President George W. Bush and Congressional leaders in a Rose Garden ceremony announcing their agreement on the joint resolution authorizing the Iraq War, and was thanked by Bush and Senator John McCain for co-sponsoring the resolution.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for his political views. He&#8217;s a pro-choicer, voted NO to ban gay marriage, appears to flip flop when it comes to environmental issues &#8220;Voted No on prohibiting eminent domain for use as parks or grazing land (Dec 2007). Voted Yes on including oil &amp; gas smokestacks in mercury regulations (Sep 2005). Rated 74% by the LCV, indicating pro-environment votes (Dec 2003). Voted No on confirming Gale Norton as Secretary of Interior (Jan 2001). Voted No on more funding for forest roads and fish habitat (Sep 1999)&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like him if he wasn&#8217;t a flip flopper for the Environmental stuff.  But then again&#8230;I agree that he could and probably should be punched in the face. And this coming from somebody who likes John Edwards (even IF he cheated on his sick wife&#8230;.so what? McCain did the same thing and ended up marrying the woman he cheated on his wife with&#8230; a woman who&#8217;s CEO of one of the largest distributers of Budweiser in North America&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;He looks like a cross between John Edwards and Nathan Petrelli.&lt;/i&gt;

Ironically, neither of whom I would like to punch in the face.  This guy though, hell yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>He looks like a cross between John Edwards and Nathan Petrelli.</i></p>
<p>Ironically, neither of whom I would like to punch in the face.  This guy though, hell yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Sofa King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sofa King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have liked Webb, but he said he wasn&#039;t interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have liked Webb, but he said he wasn&#8217;t interested.</p>
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		<title>By: SpaceSquid</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpaceSquid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no way both halves of that face belong to the same person.  He&#039;s a human cut-and-shut; the whitebread Michael Jackson.  If you were to punch him, the superglue would come unstuck and his head would open like a pedal-bin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no way both halves of that face belong to the same person.  He&#8217;s a human cut-and-shut; the whitebread Michael Jackson.  If you were to punch him, the superglue would come unstuck and his head would open like a pedal-bin.</p>
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		<title>By: Cookie McCool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cookie McCool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His chin especially would be perfect for punching all up in it.</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Solomon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kind of like the idea of Obama/Nunn just because I think that photographs of the two campaigning together would make me laugh. Is that wrong? 

The thing about bringing a swing state into the blue is that it&#039;s a very rare politician who&#039;s so wildly popular in his home state that you can guarantee it- pretty much just Evan Bayh and Bill Richardson have that kind of clout. Bayh&#039;s a poor choice for the punchability mentioned above, as well as a couple of other reasons, and it seems like Obama and Richardson just didn&#039;t have the right kind of chemistry (which is vital to this process, and why Clinton was never going to be on the ticket without a convention showdown)... Which is a shame, as he&#039;d be an excellent choice on paper, both for his credentials and the clout he has in the Southwest. But aside from those two- Biden/Nunn/Kaine/etc wouldn&#039;t guarantee their home states at all. 

Regarding Clark&#039;s ties to the Clintons, that&#039;s only a bonus here. He&#039;s &lt;I&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; a Clinton, and so he&#039;s not going to galvanize the anti-Clinton movement, but he&#039;d go a long way (as would Bayh) to incorporating that wing of the party into the campaign. Donors who&#039;ve previously been tight with the checkbooks/etc would see it as a concession to them, and that&#039;d only help things. He&#039;s not my first choice (Caroline Kennedy, &lt;I&gt;what&lt;i&gt;), but he&#039;s definitely the best of the frontrunners. 

--d</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of like the idea of Obama/Nunn just because I think that photographs of the two campaigning together would make me laugh. Is that wrong? </p>
<p>The thing about bringing a swing state into the blue is that it&#8217;s a very rare politician who&#8217;s so wildly popular in his home state that you can guarantee it- pretty much just Evan Bayh and Bill Richardson have that kind of clout. Bayh&#8217;s a poor choice for the punchability mentioned above, as well as a couple of other reasons, and it seems like Obama and Richardson just didn&#8217;t have the right kind of chemistry (which is vital to this process, and why Clinton was never going to be on the ticket without a convention showdown)&#8230; Which is a shame, as he&#8217;d be an excellent choice on paper, both for his credentials and the clout he has in the Southwest. But aside from those two- Biden/Nunn/Kaine/etc wouldn&#8217;t guarantee their home states at all. </p>
<p>Regarding Clark&#8217;s ties to the Clintons, that&#8217;s only a bonus here. He&#8217;s <i>not</i> a Clinton, and so he&#8217;s not going to galvanize the anti-Clinton movement, but he&#8217;d go a long way (as would Bayh) to incorporating that wing of the party into the campaign. Donors who&#8217;ve previously been tight with the checkbooks/etc would see it as a concession to them, and that&#8217;d only help things. He&#8217;s not my first choice (Caroline Kennedy, <i>what</i><i>), but he&#8217;s definitely the best of the frontrunners. </p>
<p>&#8211;d</i></p>
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		<title>By: dan m</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got my fingers crossed for Biden. Clark&#039;s ok, but he&#039;s pretty socially conservative on some issues- like gun control, prayer in schools, the death penalty. Those aren&#039;t big issues for me, so I still like him. But Biden brings all the same pluses to the table, he&#039;s always been a dem, and he helps cancel out some of McCain&#039;s advantages. Some of the guys they&#039;re considering are horrible- this DCL moron, and Nunn, the homophobe. If it&#039;s Nunn, I don&#039;t know that I&#039;d be able to vote for the ticket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got my fingers crossed for Biden. Clark&#8217;s ok, but he&#8217;s pretty socially conservative on some issues- like gun control, prayer in schools, the death penalty. Those aren&#8217;t big issues for me, so I still like him. But Biden brings all the same pluses to the table, he&#8217;s always been a dem, and he helps cancel out some of McCain&#8217;s advantages. Some of the guys they&#8217;re considering are horrible- this DCL moron, and Nunn, the homophobe. If it&#8217;s Nunn, I don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;d be able to vote for the ticket.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should be Clark. It must be Clark. There&#039;s really nobody else with a) his stature, b) his willingness to attack McCain, and c) his ability to withstand the fallout of B.

Yes, I remember the fallout of his very correctly pointing out that getting shot down is not a qualification to be President, but I think that it would have permanently silenced anybody else. A respected military leader who has actually won a war or two? Not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be Clark. It must be Clark. There&#8217;s really nobody else with a) his stature, b) his willingness to attack McCain, and c) his ability to withstand the fallout of B.</p>
<p>Yes, I remember the fallout of his very correctly pointing out that getting shot down is not a qualification to be President, but I think that it would have permanently silenced anybody else. A respected military leader who has actually won a war or two? Not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: goblin</title>
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		<dc:creator>goblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that face really is quite punchable but I think Obama&#039;s charisma will act as a nice shield. he could nominate someone with bleeding facial boils and people would still think the ticket is pretty.

at this point I really don&#039;t have much of an opinion supporting &lt;i&gt;anyone&lt;/i&gt; for veep.

all I know is they better not appoint someone who&#039;s more to the right to &quot;balance the ticket&quot; or some BS like that, and I really hope they pick someone who&#039;s big on gay rights issues just to put that firmly onto the platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that face really is quite punchable but I think Obama&#8217;s charisma will act as a nice shield. he could nominate someone with bleeding facial boils and people would still think the ticket is pretty.</p>
<p>at this point I really don&#8217;t have much of an opinion supporting <i>anyone</i> for veep.</p>
<p>all I know is they better not appoint someone who&#8217;s more to the right to &#8220;balance the ticket&#8221; or some BS like that, and I really hope they pick someone who&#8217;s big on gay rights issues just to put that firmly onto the platform.</p>
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		<title>By: Zenrage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zenrage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I thought there was a chance in hell of him accepting the offer, I would say Obama should pick Kucinich. 

But Kucinich wont support him.. and after FISA, I&#039;m not sure I would either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I thought there was a chance in hell of him accepting the offer, I would say Obama should pick Kucinich. </p>
<p>But Kucinich wont support him.. and after FISA, I&#8217;m not sure I would either.</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I was really hoping for Bill Richardson… Bayh is just NOT the person you want on that ticket.&quot;

I like Richardson, but he seems like a natural born Secretary of State.  Sticking him in the VP role seems kind of like a waste.

But I&#039;ll admit to being a fan of the Obama &quot;Justice League&quot; cabinet that&#039;s been floated around since the primary season: Richardson as Secretary of State, Edwards or Clinton as Attorney General, Clark as Secretary of Defense, Gore as Secretary of Energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I was really hoping for Bill Richardson… Bayh is just NOT the person you want on that ticket.&#8221;</p>
<p>I like Richardson, but he seems like a natural born Secretary of State.  Sticking him in the VP role seems kind of like a waste.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ll admit to being a fan of the Obama &#8220;Justice League&#8221; cabinet that&#8217;s been floated around since the primary season: Richardson as Secretary of State, Edwards or Clinton as Attorney General, Clark as Secretary of Defense, Gore as Secretary of Energy.</p>
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		<title>By: Sig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dan Solomon: Agree totally.  I think Clark brings the most to the table and takes the least away.  He wasn&#039;t an excellent campaigner himself during his presidential run, and his ties with the Clintons might be seen as something of a drawback, but his military background stacks nicely against McCain&#039;s résumé.  Only problem being that he doesn&#039;t bring a swing state into the blue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dan Solomon: Agree totally.  I think Clark brings the most to the table and takes the least away.  He wasn&#8217;t an excellent campaigner himself during his presidential run, and his ties with the Clintons might be seen as something of a drawback, but his military background stacks nicely against McCain&#8217;s résumé.  Only problem being that he doesn&#8217;t bring a swing state into the blue.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ilan: Seeing that Evan Bayh is actually a &lt;i&gt;completely different person&lt;/i&gt; from Bill Gwatney, I don&#039;t quite grasp exactly how discussing the face-punchability of the one can be construed as disrespectful to the other.  Is discussion of politicians indefinitely disallowed until the official statute of limitations on tragedies has expired?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ilan: Seeing that Evan Bayh is actually a <i>completely different person</i> from Bill Gwatney, I don&#8217;t quite grasp exactly how discussing the face-punchability of the one can be construed as disrespectful to the other.  Is discussion of politicians indefinitely disallowed until the official statute of limitations on tragedies has expired?</p>
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		<title>By: MGK</title>
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		<dc:creator>MGK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ilan, I actually hasn&#039;t heard about the DNC chair in Arkansas until a couple of hours after this was posted, but even if I had, the point of the post is pretty obvious: Evan Bayh is a smarmy schmuck. Suggesting this is a serious call to arms is silly; arguing it&#039;s in bad taste because someone could take it as such is pushing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ilan, I actually hasn&#8217;t heard about the DNC chair in Arkansas until a couple of hours after this was posted, but even if I had, the point of the post is pretty obvious: Evan Bayh is a smarmy schmuck. Suggesting this is a serious call to arms is silly; arguing it&#8217;s in bad taste because someone could take it as such is pushing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ilan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While nothing you write here is ever really in &lt;i&gt;good&lt;/i&gt; taste, you&#039;re setting new benchmarks here.  What was it, ten hours ago that the DNC chair in Arkansas was murdered?  Yeah, &lt;i&gt;face-punchability&lt;/i&gt; is a hilarious index.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While nothing you write here is ever really in <i>good</i> taste, you&#8217;re setting new benchmarks here.  What was it, ten hours ago that the DNC chair in Arkansas was murdered?  Yeah, <i>face-punchability</i> is a hilarious index.</p>
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