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	<title>Comments on: And I Shall Call It Dumbassopalooza: scans_daily and Peter David</title>
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		<title>By: free insurance</title>
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		<dc:creator>free insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 01:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TY a ton for putting this up, it was very informative and showed me very much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TY a ton for putting this up, it was very informative and showed me very much</p>
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		<title>By: Episode Thirteen: And That&#8217;s When the Internet Exploded - Made of Fail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Episode Thirteen: And That&#8217;s When the Internet Exploded - Made of Fail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 01:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] presented opinions well worth a read. MightyGodKing&#8217;s fantastically footnoted weigh-in is here., Cissie_King tells the tale here, and over in that corner of the internet is grayarcadian&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] presented opinions well worth a read. MightyGodKing&#8217;s fantastically footnoted weigh-in is here., Cissie_King tells the tale here, and over in that corner of the internet is grayarcadian&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: veryvery</title>
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		<dc:creator>veryvery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 07:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOVE YOUR SUMMATION!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: &#160; No Comment, FTW&#160;&#8212;&#160;Dispatches</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#160; No Comment, FTW&#160;&#8212;&#160;Dispatches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 06:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] showed up in last week’s mass tantrum responding to a pair of posts on Christopher Bird’s Mightygodking.com. The subject was Marvel writer Peter David’s perceived role in shutting down the Scans_Daily [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] showed up in last week’s mass tantrum responding to a pair of posts on Christopher Bird’s Mightygodking.com. The subject was Marvel writer Peter David’s perceived role in shutting down the Scans_Daily [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wis[s]e Words &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Scans_daily shutdown: it&#8217;s the community stupid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wis[s]e Words &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Scans_daily shutdown: it&#8217;s the community stupid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by most people, though denied by David himself. A kerfuffle quickly ensued, with little sane ommentary emerging out from amongst the people happily pissing on Scan_Daily&#8217;s ashes or wishing death [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by most people, though denied by David himself. A kerfuffle quickly ensued, with little sane ommentary emerging out from amongst the people happily pissing on Scan_Daily&#8217;s ashes or wishing death [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Georgia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Georgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/Katherine Farmar said on March 1st, 2009 at 11:10 am

I’m not advocating a boycott or anything like that, and I wasn’t precisely a fan of PAD’s before this incident, but I find it hard to believe that I’m ever going to be able to see his name on the cover of a comic without thinking “hey, that’s the asshole that shut down scans_daily. Maybe I’ll buy something else.”/

I just want to chime in and say, word fucking word.  PAD isn&#039;t the only writer out there, in fact, I&#039;ve read his book, &quot;I,Q&quot;, and the ending totally sucked, even though it was interesting, up to the ending, which sucked, perhaps that is why Peter David is so fearful of spoilers being leaked.

X-Factor can crash and burn.  Of course, PAD isn&#039;t the only writer churning out terrible work here, but thankfully, there are many alternative to Marvel&#039;s stupid Dark Age, the Marvel Adventure is decent.  There is always Alan Moore.  ...and, manga!  It&#039;s not just /badly/ written boylove or mecha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/Katherine Farmar said on March 1st, 2009 at 11:10 am</p>
<p>I’m not advocating a boycott or anything like that, and I wasn’t precisely a fan of PAD’s before this incident, but I find it hard to believe that I’m ever going to be able to see his name on the cover of a comic without thinking “hey, that’s the asshole that shut down scans_daily. Maybe I’ll buy something else.”/</p>
<p>I just want to chime in and say, word fucking word.  PAD isn&#8217;t the only writer out there, in fact, I&#8217;ve read his book, &#8220;I,Q&#8221;, and the ending totally sucked, even though it was interesting, up to the ending, which sucked, perhaps that is why Peter David is so fearful of spoilers being leaked.</p>
<p>X-Factor can crash and burn.  Of course, PAD isn&#8217;t the only writer churning out terrible work here, but thankfully, there are many alternative to Marvel&#8217;s stupid Dark Age, the Marvel Adventure is decent.  There is always Alan Moore.  &#8230;and, manga!  It&#8217;s not just /badly/ written boylove or mecha.</p>
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		<title>By: Guerilla Ontologist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guerilla Ontologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole thing is a mess, and kind of points out the bad part about the semi-anonymous nature of the internet in general. I&#039;d point at a particular Penny Arcade strip but that&#039;d require a deal more surfing than I wish.

I do find there to be some small irony in the fact that I became fond of PAD&#039;s work because of scans daily. I&#039;ll be throwing my money elsewhere. There&#039;s a load of indy titles that could use the love more than PAD&#039;s. 

Sometimes I hate learning about an artist or writer&#039;s opinion. I still haven&#039;t managed to read Ender&#039;s Game after the tirade over gay marriage and the like that Orson Scott Card went into. Willingham&#039;s right leanings make me a little uneasy and unsure if he can actually handle Obsidian in a way that I won&#039;t cringe at when JSA starts up. I knew very little about PAD before this, but after reading other bits of his blog I cringe (nevermind the SD related ranting).

That said, the SD members threatening or otherwise being douches aren&#039;t helping anything. Vote with your dollar and be done with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole thing is a mess, and kind of points out the bad part about the semi-anonymous nature of the internet in general. I&#8217;d point at a particular Penny Arcade strip but that&#8217;d require a deal more surfing than I wish.</p>
<p>I do find there to be some small irony in the fact that I became fond of PAD&#8217;s work because of scans daily. I&#8217;ll be throwing my money elsewhere. There&#8217;s a load of indy titles that could use the love more than PAD&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Sometimes I hate learning about an artist or writer&#8217;s opinion. I still haven&#8217;t managed to read Ender&#8217;s Game after the tirade over gay marriage and the like that Orson Scott Card went into. Willingham&#8217;s right leanings make me a little uneasy and unsure if he can actually handle Obsidian in a way that I won&#8217;t cringe at when JSA starts up. I knew very little about PAD before this, but after reading other bits of his blog I cringe (nevermind the SD related ranting).</p>
<p>That said, the SD members threatening or otherwise being douches aren&#8217;t helping anything. Vote with your dollar and be done with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Blog@Newsarama &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Linkarama@Newsarama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog@Newsarama &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Linkarama@Newsarama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Christopher Bird vs. Scans_Daily and Peter David: Looks like a TKO for Bird.  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Randy B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suzene,
I can definitely see your point. I do tend to view the work as separate from the creative team that did it so long as their personal viewpoints don&#039;t creep into the work itself- which does happen. That said, if a creator said or did something that just really pissed me off I&#039;m sure I&#039;d feel the same as you do- IE: feel like I can&#039;t enjoy the work because I know the source.

This is why I tend to not read interviews and comments by comic folk when it doesn&#039;t have to do with their work itself because I&#039;d rather keep my distance and just enjoy the stories for what they are. Comics are my escape from reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suzene,<br />
I can definitely see your point. I do tend to view the work as separate from the creative team that did it so long as their personal viewpoints don&#8217;t creep into the work itself- which does happen. That said, if a creator said or did something that just really pissed me off I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;d feel the same as you do- IE: feel like I can&#8217;t enjoy the work because I know the source.</p>
<p>This is why I tend to not read interviews and comments by comic folk when it doesn&#8217;t have to do with their work itself because I&#8217;d rather keep my distance and just enjoy the stories for what they are. Comics are my escape from reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lister: I don&#039;t think sales drop when Land&#039;s up on Uncanny, but the reviews sure seem to get worse, for both the art and the story. 

Randy: No worries! I&#039;m enjoying the discussion. 

I suppose it depends on how you view the work in relation to the originator. If you see the work as independent of the artist once it&#039;s released out into the world, then boycotting the work for the artist&#039;s views makes about as much sense as kicking someone&#039;s dog because they said something jerkish. If you view the work as more an extension of the artist, then it&#039;s like delivering a kick in the shin. Obviously, I fall in the latter category. ;) 

More seriously, I do see the art and the artist as being irrevocably linked, especially when you&#039;re dealing with commercial art like comics, where the creative team is almost always hyped as one of the main reasons to buy the product. Of course, an artist is perfectly free to say what he or she likes, but if one of the consequences of that outspokenness is that my ability to enjoy their output is compromised, I don&#039;t think that the creator is entitled to my support, no matter the quality of the work. If I were to somehow find out that someone whose music I enjoyed supported Prop 8, I would stop supporting their work because by funding them, I&#039;d be concerned that I was indirectly aiding a cause I abhor and, even aside from that, my ability to get full enjoyment from their work would be cut down because I&#039;d think less of them as a person. The S_D debacle is of considerably lesser concern to me, but the same basic concept applies -- I think David is coming off as a completely unpleasant person in this and there&#039;s not so little entertainment in the world that I feel I&#039;d be deprived by distancing myself from him as much as possible, including not buying his comics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lister: I don&#8217;t think sales drop when Land&#8217;s up on Uncanny, but the reviews sure seem to get worse, for both the art and the story. </p>
<p>Randy: No worries! I&#8217;m enjoying the discussion. </p>
<p>I suppose it depends on how you view the work in relation to the originator. If you see the work as independent of the artist once it&#8217;s released out into the world, then boycotting the work for the artist&#8217;s views makes about as much sense as kicking someone&#8217;s dog because they said something jerkish. If you view the work as more an extension of the artist, then it&#8217;s like delivering a kick in the shin. Obviously, I fall in the latter category. <img src='http://mightygodking.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>More seriously, I do see the art and the artist as being irrevocably linked, especially when you&#8217;re dealing with commercial art like comics, where the creative team is almost always hyped as one of the main reasons to buy the product. Of course, an artist is perfectly free to say what he or she likes, but if one of the consequences of that outspokenness is that my ability to enjoy their output is compromised, I don&#8217;t think that the creator is entitled to my support, no matter the quality of the work. If I were to somehow find out that someone whose music I enjoyed supported Prop 8, I would stop supporting their work because by funding them, I&#8217;d be concerned that I was indirectly aiding a cause I abhor and, even aside from that, my ability to get full enjoyment from their work would be cut down because I&#8217;d think less of them as a person. The S_D debacle is of considerably lesser concern to me, but the same basic concept applies &#8212; I think David is coming off as a completely unpleasant person in this and there&#8217;s not so little entertainment in the world that I feel I&#8217;d be deprived by distancing myself from him as much as possible, including not buying his comics.</p>
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		<title>By: womzilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>womzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read, in the last decade, I think as many as three issues of &lt;i&gt;X-Factor&lt;/i&gt;, all of them part of an X-books crossover--including, in fact, the issue in which Layla Miller &quot;died&quot;. 

It was so painfully obvious that she wasn&#039;t actually dead that I&#039;m embarrassed for the author, both for the &quot;death&quot; and for thinking anyone would be surprised by her return. 

PAD used to be a better writer than that, didn&#039;t he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read, in the last decade, I think as many as three issues of <i>X-Factor</i>, all of them part of an X-books crossover&#8211;including, in fact, the issue in which Layla Miller &#8220;died&#8221;. </p>
<p>It was so painfully obvious that she wasn&#8217;t actually dead that I&#8217;m embarrassed for the author, both for the &#8220;death&#8221; and for thinking anyone would be surprised by her return. </p>
<p>PAD used to be a better writer than that, didn&#8217;t he?</p>
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		<title>By: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; March 3, 2009: Big hand&#8217;s on 120, little hand&#8217;s on me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; March 3, 2009: Big hand&#8217;s on 120, little hand&#8217;s on me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Brigid Alverson, Johanna Draper Carlson, Glenn Haumann, Tom Spurgeon, Christopher Bird (one, two &#8212; both getting my vote as the most insightful comments on the subject, not least of all [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Brigid Alverson, Johanna Draper Carlson, Glenn Haumann, Tom Spurgeon, Christopher Bird (one, two &#8212; both getting my vote as the most insightful comments on the subject, not least of all [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lurkerwithout</title>
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		<dc:creator>lurkerwithout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@socraticsilence:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.peterdavid.net/index.php/2009/02/24/sooooelecting-barack-obama-was-an-act-of-cowardice/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PAD&#039;s post on race&lt;/a&gt;.  Just skimming it, it seems to match up somewhat with Willinghams.  That they&#039;d LOVE to talk race with POC but POC are all so ANGRY and MEAN so they won&#039;t...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@socraticsilence:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.peterdavid.net/index.php/2009/02/24/sooooelecting-barack-obama-was-an-act-of-cowardice/" rel="nofollow">PAD&#8217;s post on race</a>.  Just skimming it, it seems to match up somewhat with Willinghams.  That they&#8217;d LOVE to talk race with POC but POC are all so ANGRY and MEAN so they won&#8217;t&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jigae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jigae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@sgt pepper: He did that to me when I compared a couple X-Factor panels to Battlestar Galactica. He&#039;s a charming man that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sgt pepper: He did that to me when I compared a couple X-Factor panels to Battlestar Galactica. He&#8217;s a charming man that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Jigae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jigae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was an awesome post. I wish I had something to add, but I wanted to tell you how well thought out and right on it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was an awesome post. I wish I had something to add, but I wanted to tell you how well thought out and right on it was.</p>
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