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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 04:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kirk Warren

Interesting! I had similar problems finding a psychiatrist in Tennessee - that&#039;s in the US in case you were wondering. ;) I ended up waiting seven months, I think, before I saw one. There&#039;s simply not enough psychiatrists practicing. I think the requirements are too stringent or something. The social worker rate is about the same in America too, depending on their education and experience of course.</description>
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<p>Interesting! I had similar problems finding a psychiatrist in Tennessee &#8211; that&#8217;s in the US in case you were wondering. <img src='http://mightygodking.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I ended up waiting seven months, I think, before I saw one. There&#8217;s simply not enough psychiatrists practicing. I think the requirements are too stringent or something. The social worker rate is about the same in America too, depending on their education and experience of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 19:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rebecca - In Nova Scotia (that&#039;s in Canada in case you were wondering), all forms of mental health is fully covered.  Prescription costs are usually covered under your basic insurance up to certain percentages (say you pay 10% or about $10-20 per pickup, depending on your coverage). 

The problem with it in our province is that we are seriously understaffed for mental health care everywhere except in Halifax (the only &quot;large&quot; city in Nova Scotia) and even they have difficulties with staffing for that area of health care.  

If you have immediate problems, bam, you get help no sweat and, depending on severity, could be hospitilized with regular sessions or what have you.  Once you&#039;ve been &quot;stablized&quot; (for lack of better word), you&#039;re relegated to 1-2 month waits for 10-15 minute sessions with your psychiatrist and can also schedule free meetings with social workers if you have need to talk things out (some only need pills, others with psych trauma may need a social worker, etc).  

There are also private options for mental health problems and some insurance or jobs cover that.  Private social workers/psychiatrists can be seen for anywhere from $100-200/hour or more, but have zero wait times and you get in just about any time you want with zero waiting room time (standard waiting room for mental health issues is a hour past your &quot;appointment&quot;).  

However, in general, once you see your psychiatrist, it&#039;s quality care.  Just extremely backed up and can be troubling if medicines aren&#039;t working and you are switching between different meds to find the proper balance.  If there&#039;s adverse side affects, you can obvously call and make an appointment and get in relatively quickly, but generally, you will be waiting for your next appointment unless in serious condition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rebecca &#8211; In Nova Scotia (that&#8217;s in Canada in case you were wondering), all forms of mental health is fully covered.  Prescription costs are usually covered under your basic insurance up to certain percentages (say you pay 10% or about $10-20 per pickup, depending on your coverage). </p>
<p>The problem with it in our province is that we are seriously understaffed for mental health care everywhere except in Halifax (the only &#8220;large&#8221; city in Nova Scotia) and even they have difficulties with staffing for that area of health care.  </p>
<p>If you have immediate problems, bam, you get help no sweat and, depending on severity, could be hospitilized with regular sessions or what have you.  Once you&#8217;ve been &#8220;stablized&#8221; (for lack of better word), you&#8217;re relegated to 1-2 month waits for 10-15 minute sessions with your psychiatrist and can also schedule free meetings with social workers if you have need to talk things out (some only need pills, others with psych trauma may need a social worker, etc).  </p>
<p>There are also private options for mental health problems and some insurance or jobs cover that.  Private social workers/psychiatrists can be seen for anywhere from $100-200/hour or more, but have zero wait times and you get in just about any time you want with zero waiting room time (standard waiting room for mental health issues is a hour past your &#8220;appointment&#8221;).  </p>
<p>However, in general, once you see your psychiatrist, it&#8217;s quality care.  Just extremely backed up and can be troubling if medicines aren&#8217;t working and you are switching between different meds to find the proper balance.  If there&#8217;s adverse side affects, you can obvously call and make an appointment and get in relatively quickly, but generally, you will be waiting for your next appointment unless in serious condition.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@No One: Why do you say $5000 is not a lot for psychiatric help? I know we&#039;re talking Canadian money here but if I got $5000 a year, damn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@No One: Why do you say $5000 is not a lot for psychiatric help? I know we&#8217;re talking Canadian money here but if I got $5000 a year, damn.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@NoOne USA does have federal disability benefits but they only apply to people who don&#039;t work fulltime and make less than $980 a month.

I spend about $340 for 90 day supply of antidepressants (they&#039;re generics), $90 a session for therapy (once every week or every two weeks), and more for psychiatric/pdoc appointments for stuff relating to medication. That&#039;s with health insurance. I don&#039;t believe any health insurance company would pay for the cost of a laptop or a life coach no matter the circumstances, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@NoOne USA does have federal disability benefits but they only apply to people who don&#8217;t work fulltime and make less than $980 a month.</p>
<p>I spend about $340 for 90 day supply of antidepressants (they&#8217;re generics), $90 a session for therapy (once every week or every two weeks), and more for psychiatric/pdoc appointments for stuff relating to medication. That&#8217;s with health insurance. I don&#8217;t believe any health insurance company would pay for the cost of a laptop or a life coach no matter the circumstances, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Clara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I almost ripped a couple friends of mine today on the health care issue. I&#039;m currently uninsured. I moved, am starting my own business, and had an issue with my COBRA carry over. So for now, no coverage. 

I think part of the issue is that many Americans really don&#039;t get just how expensive health care is. If you have even basic insurance coverage, your perspective of cost is blunted. People don&#039;t think about the problem of pre-existing conditions, they don&#039;t think about losing a job and being unable to keep up with insane COBRA payments. The perception is, if you have no insurance you are doing something wrong. 

It&#039;s not helped by the fact that Medicare/Medicade are &quot;old or poor people&quot; coverage. Reality or not, that&#039;s the perception. America has no history of effective state run services. We have no frame of reference, and no structure to help support that type of transition. The attempts to improve health care have resulted in this horrific patchwork system that is periodically used as proof that national health care can&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost ripped a couple friends of mine today on the health care issue. I&#8217;m currently uninsured. I moved, am starting my own business, and had an issue with my COBRA carry over. So for now, no coverage. </p>
<p>I think part of the issue is that many Americans really don&#8217;t get just how expensive health care is. If you have even basic insurance coverage, your perspective of cost is blunted. People don&#8217;t think about the problem of pre-existing conditions, they don&#8217;t think about losing a job and being unable to keep up with insane COBRA payments. The perception is, if you have no insurance you are doing something wrong. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not helped by the fact that Medicare/Medicade are &#8220;old or poor people&#8221; coverage. Reality or not, that&#8217;s the perception. America has no history of effective state run services. We have no frame of reference, and no structure to help support that type of transition. The attempts to improve health care have resulted in this horrific patchwork system that is periodically used as proof that national health care can&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bender- that&#039;s funny.  It&#039;s usually conservatives who are against universal health care in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bender- that&#8217;s funny.  It&#8217;s usually conservatives who are against universal health care in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Peztopiary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peztopiary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the encyclopedia Britannica? Are you in debt/hock to that then? Even my auto spell check, (site provided and much appreciated) knows how to spell it! We aren&#039;t living five hundred years ago. Wikipedia, anything but an authoritative source. Which might be the problem. We buy into the squid on the chessboard, swarm of bees, fucking hope, we do. Capitalism sells hope, which means you can steal it.  Why are you talking in archaisms? If you can not argue your point in pretty language it matters little how correct you are. We our your neighbours, or neighbors, depending. If you can not talk to us, then what is the point of talking? (Well aside from being correct.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the encyclopedia Britannica? Are you in debt/hock to that then? Even my auto spell check, (site provided and much appreciated) knows how to spell it! We aren&#8217;t living five hundred years ago. Wikipedia, anything but an authoritative source. Which might be the problem. We buy into the squid on the chessboard, swarm of bees, fucking hope, we do. Capitalism sells hope, which means you can steal it.  Why are you talking in archaisms? If you can not argue your point in pretty language it matters little how correct you are. We our your neighbours, or neighbors, depending. If you can not talk to us, then what is the point of talking? (Well aside from being correct.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bender</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a few American friends online and it&#039;s always a touchy issue when  talking about universal healthcare as most of them are fairly liberal. When it&#039;s brough up it&#039;s always seen by them a socialist action.

I talk about Aussie healthcare (which is far from perfection and the Medicare system here has it&#039;s own set of problems) but I just try to explain that when I&#039;m sick, I can go to the doctor and not pay a ridiculous amount on money for treatment. Which I think is pretty cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a few American friends online and it&#8217;s always a touchy issue when  talking about universal healthcare as most of them are fairly liberal. When it&#8217;s brough up it&#8217;s always seen by them a socialist action.</p>
<p>I talk about Aussie healthcare (which is far from perfection and the Medicare system here has it&#8217;s own set of problems) but I just try to explain that when I&#8217;m sick, I can go to the doctor and not pay a ridiculous amount on money for treatment. Which I think is pretty cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Llelldorin
I loled. 

I&#039;m pretty much fed up with the party system all together because it just doesn&#039;t seem work very well- then again there&#039;s not much about our current democratic process that works as effectively as it probably should. (Why is the electoral college a good idea again? If the people&#039;s vote is really supposed to matter, why not just go by the popular?) That&#039;s not to say I have a perfect solution or anything, just all the posturing, bullshitting, and gladhanding makes me want to go up there and personally knock sense into every one of them. There&#039;s so many people struggling and suffering right now while the rich S.O.B.&#039;s that will never have to face a lot of the issues they&#039;re debating about are more concerned with pushing their own agenda than trying to help. 

There should be a &quot;fuck politics&quot; Amendment to the constitution where during times that are considered a national crisis any government representative that offers up debate, ideas, or commentary that isn&#039;t constructive will be cock-punched (or an appropriate equivalent for our female representatives) by a designated &quot;disciplinarian&quot;- which will be chosen at random like jury duty. :-p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Llelldorin<br />
I loled. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty much fed up with the party system all together because it just doesn&#8217;t seem work very well- then again there&#8217;s not much about our current democratic process that works as effectively as it probably should. (Why is the electoral college a good idea again? If the people&#8217;s vote is really supposed to matter, why not just go by the popular?) That&#8217;s not to say I have a perfect solution or anything, just all the posturing, bullshitting, and gladhanding makes me want to go up there and personally knock sense into every one of them. There&#8217;s so many people struggling and suffering right now while the rich S.O.B.&#8217;s that will never have to face a lot of the issues they&#8217;re debating about are more concerned with pushing their own agenda than trying to help. </p>
<p>There should be a &#8220;fuck politics&#8221; Amendment to the constitution where during times that are considered a national crisis any government representative that offers up debate, ideas, or commentary that isn&#8217;t constructive will be cock-punched (or an appropriate equivalent for our female representatives) by a designated &#8220;disciplinarian&#8221;- which will be chosen at random like jury duty. :-p</p>
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		<title>By: No One</title>
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		<dc:creator>No One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebecca, part of the thing you have to realize with the &quot;Canadian&quot; system is that we run our healthcare by province, and mental health is a good example. I was diagnosed with Asperger&#039;s a few years ago, and in BC, where I live, you get $5000 a year that goes to help you overcome your disability(In my case, it bought a laptop to help with schooling, and a lifeskills coach. Do note that, I only got the laptop because the disability hindered my ability to do well in class and I had to get doctors permission to spend the money on it so the government didn&#039;t try to make me pay them back for the laptop I spent their money on, they don&#039;t just give you free money with no limitations). However, besides the fact that $5000 is not a lot of money for psychiatric help, it expires at 18. Now, if I lived in Alberta, I would get 100% coverage on anything to help me overcome my mental disability(Though Im not sure if or when said said coverage expires in alberta). Also, though its not mandatory, we also have extended healthcare plans offered by employers. Mine covers a percentage of any dental work, as well as any prescription only costs me $3. If its a bottle of $20 prescription drugs, its $3. If its a $500 prescription drug, it costs $3. (I will admit, being an electrician, my company has to compete with the union workers so I don&#039;t leave them to join the union, so its a pretty damn good extended benefits package) Anyway, I rambled on too long, but basically its not completely universal everywhere in canada, but there is of course the basic &quot;you dont get fucked in the ass for things that arent your fault&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca, part of the thing you have to realize with the &#8220;Canadian&#8221; system is that we run our healthcare by province, and mental health is a good example. I was diagnosed with Asperger&#8217;s a few years ago, and in BC, where I live, you get $5000 a year that goes to help you overcome your disability(In my case, it bought a laptop to help with schooling, and a lifeskills coach. Do note that, I only got the laptop because the disability hindered my ability to do well in class and I had to get doctors permission to spend the money on it so the government didn&#8217;t try to make me pay them back for the laptop I spent their money on, they don&#8217;t just give you free money with no limitations). However, besides the fact that $5000 is not a lot of money for psychiatric help, it expires at 18. Now, if I lived in Alberta, I would get 100% coverage on anything to help me overcome my mental disability(Though Im not sure if or when said said coverage expires in alberta). Also, though its not mandatory, we also have extended healthcare plans offered by employers. Mine covers a percentage of any dental work, as well as any prescription only costs me $3. If its a bottle of $20 prescription drugs, its $3. If its a $500 prescription drug, it costs $3. (I will admit, being an electrician, my company has to compete with the union workers so I don&#8217;t leave them to join the union, so its a pretty damn good extended benefits package) Anyway, I rambled on too long, but basically its not completely universal everywhere in canada, but there is of course the basic &#8220;you dont get fucked in the ass for things that arent your fault&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I have questions. Until quite recently, most health insurance companies didn&#039;t cover mental health at all or did it in a very limited way. I think more people are covered now but it&#039;s not as good as physical health. How does the Canadian system cover mental health issues?

I have kind of the trifecta - mental illness, physical illness, and expensive prescriptions, all of which is darn hard to pay for. It&#039;s a big issue for me, because I don&#039;t think I can pay for both healthcare and rent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I have questions. Until quite recently, most health insurance companies didn&#8217;t cover mental health at all or did it in a very limited way. I think more people are covered now but it&#8217;s not as good as physical health. How does the Canadian system cover mental health issues?</p>
<p>I have kind of the trifecta &#8211; mental illness, physical illness, and expensive prescriptions, all of which is darn hard to pay for. It&#8217;s a big issue for me, because I don&#8217;t think I can pay for both healthcare and rent.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with a lot of what you said, but not the part about statins.  I think most people would be better off without them. 

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with a lot of what you said, but not the part about statins.  I think most people would be better off without them. </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: norabombay</title>
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		<dc:creator>norabombay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, but to be ensured health care! I&#039;m absolutely incapable of buying insurance on the private market. Nothing like a couple of easily managed pre-existing conditions to ensure you will be fucked.

My back up plan, should I lose my job and coverage, is a shot gun marriage to somebody with insurance. I wish this was a joke. 

Either that, or to finish the paperwork and move to Canada....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, but to be ensured health care! I&#8217;m absolutely incapable of buying insurance on the private market. Nothing like a couple of easily managed pre-existing conditions to ensure you will be fucked.</p>
<p>My back up plan, should I lose my job and coverage, is a shot gun marriage to somebody with insurance. I wish this was a joke. </p>
<p>Either that, or to finish the paperwork and move to Canada&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Ahem. Anyway, the list of things “egregiously twisted out of shape, or even outright made up” by politicians and theoretically-journalists in the United States about the Canadian health care system is fucking legion. It never seems to goddamn end, and let me tell you: as a Canadian, I speak for just about all Canadians when I say that this is one of the things that really pisses me off about Americans (who are generally quite a decent bunch, all things considered), because the root assumption Americans make when they say that Canadians have shit healthcare and die waiting in line and so forth is that we are a nation of idiots who don’t know any better, considering that we live right next door to the capitalist paradise that is American health care. That this sometimes comes out of ignorance makes it no less rude.&lt;/i&gt;

Most of the people who get the things wrong are either doing it intentional or their own presumptions about finances and gov&#039;t action make them imagine the worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Ahem. Anyway, the list of things “egregiously twisted out of shape, or even outright made up” by politicians and theoretically-journalists in the United States about the Canadian health care system is fucking legion. It never seems to goddamn end, and let me tell you: as a Canadian, I speak for just about all Canadians when I say that this is one of the things that really pisses me off about Americans (who are generally quite a decent bunch, all things considered), because the root assumption Americans make when they say that Canadians have shit healthcare and die waiting in line and so forth is that we are a nation of idiots who don’t know any better, considering that we live right next door to the capitalist paradise that is American health care. That this sometimes comes out of ignorance makes it no less rude.</i></p>
<p>Most of the people who get the things wrong are either doing it intentional or their own presumptions about finances and gov&#8217;t action make them imagine the worst.</p>
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		<title>By: Scavenger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scavenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;know, I got polled the other day on healthcare...mainly focusing on if I think kids should be covered....and while they asked if I had Health Care and if it was private or public etc, they didn&#039;t ask if I was satisfied with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;know, I got polled the other day on healthcare&#8230;mainly focusing on if I think kids should be covered&#8230;.and while they asked if I had Health Care and if it was private or public etc, they didn&#8217;t ask if I was satisfied with it.</p>
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