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		<title>By: Sisyphus</title>
		<link>http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2009/12/26/correcting-a-flawed-perception/comment-page-1/#comment-38666</link>
		<dc:creator>Sisyphus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK. Going to IMDB, and stripping out the Videogame titles, Cameron is credited with the following:
1 Avatar (2009) (written by)
2 &quot;Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles&quot; (31 episodes, 2008-2009)
3 &quot;Dark Angel&quot; (42 episodes, 2000-2002)
4 Titanic (1997) (written by)
5 Strange Days (1995) (screenplay) (story)
6 True Lies (1994) (screenplay)
7 Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) (written by)
8 The Abyss (1989) (written by)
9 Aliens (1986) (screenplay) (story)
10 Rambo: First Blood Part II (1985) (screenplay)
11 The Terminator (1984) (written by)
12 Xenogenesis (1978) (writer) 

I haven&#039;t seen Avatar, so I won&#039;t talk about it. However, Terminator (the entire franchise) is such an overrated mess. The time-travel logic is absurd . From the &quot;We can only send organic material&quot; handwave as to why they don&#039;t just send a bomb back to blow up John or Sarah Connor, to the &quot;I just sent my father back in time to impregnate my mother&quot; paradox. 

True Lies is a steaming pile of crap. It&#039;s absolutely absurd in every sense. I can accept fantastic heroic action, but I can&#039;t accept people acting in ways that are just illogical or unreasonable. Between Arnold&#039;s scenery chewing, Tom Arnold&#039;s...well...just Tom Arnold, and the complete mess of a plot, it&#039;s a toss up as to what really killed it. It&#039;s like a trifecta of misery.

Now that the worst offenders are out of the way, Dark Angel wasn&#039;t bad, but it wasn&#039;t great. It was forgettable. First Blood Part II is a bad movie, not a train wreck, but certainly not a clever or smart movie.

So what&#039;s left is The Abyss and Strange Days. I haven&#039;t seen The Abyss, but Strange Days is fairly good. It&#039;s well structured, the characters act in logical ways, the movies internal logic is coherent, and there aren&#039;t too many gaping plot holes. So basically, there&#039;s one fairly good movie, and two that I haven&#039;t seen. Sorry, that&#039;s not really a great inducement to spend the 20 bucks to go see Avatar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. Going to IMDB, and stripping out the Videogame titles, Cameron is credited with the following:<br />
1 Avatar (2009) (written by)<br />
2 &#8220;Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles&#8221; (31 episodes, 2008-2009)<br />
3 &#8220;Dark Angel&#8221; (42 episodes, 2000-2002)<br />
4 Titanic (1997) (written by)<br />
5 Strange Days (1995) (screenplay) (story)<br />
6 True Lies (1994) (screenplay)<br />
7 Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) (written by)<br />
8 The Abyss (1989) (written by)<br />
9 Aliens (1986) (screenplay) (story)<br />
10 Rambo: First Blood Part II (1985) (screenplay)<br />
11 The Terminator (1984) (written by)<br />
12 Xenogenesis (1978) (writer) </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen Avatar, so I won&#8217;t talk about it. However, Terminator (the entire franchise) is such an overrated mess. The time-travel logic is absurd . From the &#8220;We can only send organic material&#8221; handwave as to why they don&#8217;t just send a bomb back to blow up John or Sarah Connor, to the &#8220;I just sent my father back in time to impregnate my mother&#8221; paradox. </p>
<p>True Lies is a steaming pile of crap. It&#8217;s absolutely absurd in every sense. I can accept fantastic heroic action, but I can&#8217;t accept people acting in ways that are just illogical or unreasonable. Between Arnold&#8217;s scenery chewing, Tom Arnold&#8217;s&#8230;well&#8230;just Tom Arnold, and the complete mess of a plot, it&#8217;s a toss up as to what really killed it. It&#8217;s like a trifecta of misery.</p>
<p>Now that the worst offenders are out of the way, Dark Angel wasn&#8217;t bad, but it wasn&#8217;t great. It was forgettable. First Blood Part II is a bad movie, not a train wreck, but certainly not a clever or smart movie.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s left is The Abyss and Strange Days. I haven&#8217;t seen The Abyss, but Strange Days is fairly good. It&#8217;s well structured, the characters act in logical ways, the movies internal logic is coherent, and there aren&#8217;t too many gaping plot holes. So basically, there&#8217;s one fairly good movie, and two that I haven&#8217;t seen. Sorry, that&#8217;s not really a great inducement to spend the 20 bucks to go see Avatar.</p>
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		<title>By: gaygeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>gaygeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The meme that &#039;James Cameron amkes dumb films&#039; got started by two things, the first being the backlash against Titanic and the second was that Oscar acceptance speech he did.  The camera catching his then wife rolling her eyes at his speech didnt help matters any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The meme that &#8216;James Cameron amkes dumb films&#8217; got started by two things, the first being the backlash against Titanic and the second was that Oscar acceptance speech he did.  The camera catching his then wife rolling her eyes at his speech didnt help matters any.</p>
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		<title>By: Bacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cameron is overated &#039;bout time people realise that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cameron is overated &#8217;bout time people realise that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Coyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Coyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cameron wasn&#039;t involved in the Terminator series; he co-created (with Murder One and Shield writer Charles Eglee) Dark Angel, the Jessica Alba vehicle about a very Battle Angel Alita-esque character that limped along for two seasons before being canceled to make room for Firefly. 

Cameron even directed the second season finale in a last ditch effort to save the show, which had gotten so far from its original premise that I think it alienated the audience. 

The filming of the finale, for wrestling trivia buffs, is where guest star Lita recieved the injury that would eventually destroy her wrestling career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cameron wasn&#8217;t involved in the Terminator series; he co-created (with Murder One and Shield writer Charles Eglee) Dark Angel, the Jessica Alba vehicle about a very Battle Angel Alita-esque character that limped along for two seasons before being canceled to make room for Firefly. </p>
<p>Cameron even directed the second season finale in a last ditch effort to save the show, which had gotten so far from its original premise that I think it alienated the audience. </p>
<p>The filming of the finale, for wrestling trivia buffs, is where guest star Lita recieved the injury that would eventually destroy her wrestling career.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim O'Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim O'Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I think it&#039;s worth mentioning that for all the talk about his last two films being outliers in his filmography - they&#039;re the only fiction films he&#039;s done in over fifteen years, so that&#039;s over half his career as a director.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I think it&#8217;s worth mentioning that for all the talk about his last two films being outliers in his filmography &#8211; they&#8217;re the only fiction films he&#8217;s done in over fifteen years, so that&#8217;s over half his career as a director.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say that the “James Cameron makes dumb films” meme started with True Lies at the exact moment that the protagonist and his wife share a kiss IN FRONT OF A MUSHROOM CLOUD.

You can argue the science of that moment. You can argue the comparative qualities of the rest of his movies, but it won&#039;t matter because the internet&#039;s memory is only as far as last stupid thing you&#039;ve done, ergo Superman&#039;s a dick, Obama&#039;s not an &#039;merican citizen and James Cameron drools on a camera.

Was it not Nietzsche that said &quot;If you look long enough at the People Of Walmart, that the People Of Walmart begin to look back through you&quot;?

;p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say that the “James Cameron makes dumb films” meme started with True Lies at the exact moment that the protagonist and his wife share a kiss IN FRONT OF A MUSHROOM CLOUD.</p>
<p>You can argue the science of that moment. You can argue the comparative qualities of the rest of his movies, but it won&#8217;t matter because the internet&#8217;s memory is only as far as last stupid thing you&#8217;ve done, ergo Superman&#8217;s a dick, Obama&#8217;s not an &#8216;merican citizen and James Cameron drools on a camera.</p>
<p>Was it not Nietzsche that said &#8220;If you look long enough at the People Of Walmart, that the People Of Walmart begin to look back through you&#8221;?</p>
<p>;p</p>
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		<title>By: John Seavey</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Seavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>**sigh** It is a Deus Ex Machina in the denotative sense, in that it does involve Eywa (the Na&#039;vi&#039;s &quot;god&quot;) intervening directly into the situation.

It is not a Deus Ex Machina in the connotative sense, meaning a happy ending that depends entirely on authorial fiat and fortuitous coincidence, instead of elements of the plot established over the course of the narrative. If you say in Act One, &quot;All these animals are linked by a worldwide communications network,&quot; and you say in Act Two, &quot;The hero sends out a distress signal through the worldwide communications network,&quot; then it is not a Deus Ex Machina when he&#039;s rescued by all those animals in Act Three. It&#039;s just the end of the story. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**sigh** It is a Deus Ex Machina in the denotative sense, in that it does involve Eywa (the Na&#8217;vi&#8217;s &#8220;god&#8221;) intervening directly into the situation.</p>
<p>It is not a Deus Ex Machina in the connotative sense, meaning a happy ending that depends entirely on authorial fiat and fortuitous coincidence, instead of elements of the plot established over the course of the narrative. If you say in Act One, &#8220;All these animals are linked by a worldwide communications network,&#8221; and you say in Act Two, &#8220;The hero sends out a distress signal through the worldwide communications network,&#8221; then it is not a Deus Ex Machina when he&#8217;s rescued by all those animals in Act Three. It&#8217;s just the end of the story. <img src='http://mightygodking.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bender</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting isn&#039;t it? I mean, Avatar was a pretty good movie I think. Definitely a pretty entertaining ride.

But when people ask me how it was, when I say how the story wasn&#039;t that good, people generally disagree with me, saying they liked the story. I think maybe saying the story wasn&#039;t good isn&#039;t the right way to express it. It was at least pretty solid story, I guess it&#039;s a story that has been told a few different ways before, without bringing anything particularly new to the type of story. Other than some pretty groundbreaking SFX.

Maybe Transformers 2 just set the bar so low for what people expect from a big action movie that they are ecstatic just to get something that resembles a cohesive plotline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting isn&#8217;t it? I mean, Avatar was a pretty good movie I think. Definitely a pretty entertaining ride.</p>
<p>But when people ask me how it was, when I say how the story wasn&#8217;t that good, people generally disagree with me, saying they liked the story. I think maybe saying the story wasn&#8217;t good isn&#8217;t the right way to express it. It was at least pretty solid story, I guess it&#8217;s a story that has been told a few different ways before, without bringing anything particularly new to the type of story. Other than some pretty groundbreaking SFX.</p>
<p>Maybe Transformers 2 just set the bar so low for what people expect from a big action movie that they are ecstatic just to get something that resembles a cohesive plotline.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim O'Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim O'Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would rather just write off Titanic as a Lovecraftian eruption of elder dread into our unsuspecting world, but that would probably be a bridge too far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would rather just write off Titanic as a Lovecraftian eruption of elder dread into our unsuspecting world, but that would probably be a bridge too far.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Mohareb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Mohareb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, if you move the goalposts a little more, I&#039;m sure we can write Titanic off as a flop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, if you move the goalposts a little more, I&#8217;m sure we can write Titanic off as a flop.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Mohareb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Mohareb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we sure they aren&#039;t thinking of Alien Vs Predator?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we sure they aren&#8217;t thinking of Alien Vs Predator?</p>
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		<title>By: BringTheNoise</title>
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		<dc:creator>BringTheNoise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, scratch that: The TV show was another &quot;Based on characters created by&quot; credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, scratch that: The TV show was another &#8220;Based on characters created by&#8221; credit.</p>
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		<title>By: BringTheNoise</title>
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		<dc:creator>BringTheNoise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And he didn&#039;t even get that for Terminator Salvation.

Unless you meant the Terminator TV show that he was writing? I know it only lasted two seasons but was that really considered a flop?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And he didn&#8217;t even get that for Terminator Salvation.</p>
<p>Unless you meant the Terminator TV show that he was writing? I know it only lasted two seasons but was that really considered a flop?</p>
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		<title>By: BringTheNoise</title>
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		<dc:creator>BringTheNoise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cameron&#039;s only connection to T3 was a credit noting that he co-created the characters. He didn&#039;t even get a vanity Exec. Producer credit, so they can&#039;t hold that against him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cameron&#8217;s only connection to T3 was a credit noting that he co-created the characters. He didn&#8217;t even get a vanity Exec. Producer credit, so they can&#8217;t hold that against him.</p>
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		<title>By: Zenrage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zenrage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Prankster

Titanic was TWELVE years ago. I&#039;m sorry but its always a case of what have you done recently and James Cameron&#039;s previous film, Terminator 3, was a disaster domestically. 

The project he did this one for is Battle Angel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Prankster</p>
<p>Titanic was TWELVE years ago. I&#8217;m sorry but its always a case of what have you done recently and James Cameron&#8217;s previous film, Terminator 3, was a disaster domestically. </p>
<p>The project he did this one for is Battle Angel.</p>
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