13 users responded in this post

Subscribe to this post comment rss or trackback url
mygif

Shorter Harper: “I had no option.” So much for the Accountability Party.

I’m disappointed by Bob Rae’s spinnage on this topic, too. While the troglodytes on the CBC’s message boards, in addition to endorsing the torture of minors, think that Rae’s one o’ them Osamas for saying that Khadr shouldn’t be left in the gulag, I note that Rae effectively defends the Liberals’ failure to get Khadr shipped home.

Also: the “crime” he’s charged with? Shooting back. Jesus Christ, are the U.S. Marines such a pack of sissies that they call the cops when someone returns fire? Because the people they work for clearly are.

Bonus: the CSIS footage. They went in there with their interview subject happy to see them and they still didn’t get squat. Flunk. All we can get from that is that the guy’s basically innocent and/or that CSIS isn’t up to the job — so we’ve learned nothing new.

ReplyReply
mygif

The real question that always bugged me was why the US would be so keen on keeping a 15-year-old boy in a cage for years on end. He has no useful intelligence, he isn’t exactly a serious national threat, he’s got all the political clout of a 15-year-old boy, and he had to be hospitalized right after they caught him.

There really is no other reason to hold him, save for two that come to mind. First, he’s an excellent test case for the Unified Executive (read: Dictatorship) government Bush was aiming for. If you can keep a kid like this indefinitely, you can realistically keep anybody. Second, releasing him is a tacit admission that the system is flawed and the administration failed. Ergo, you have to keep him forever because letting him go means admitting you were wrong.

Of course, the price for legalizing an American dictatorship involves turning your Justice Department into a giant joke. Prosecutors are forced to argue the most outlandish theories and the entrenched judges currently running the American Court System are going to lose all respect for you very, very quickly. So you pick a fight with the Judicial Branch very quickly. And the Judicial Branch has really been the only functional check on the Administration’s powers.

This is all a fucking tragedy, and we can’t reach November soon enough here in the States. As pathetic as your conservative party is at trying to pass the buck of the Bush Doctrine, just be glad you’re not in a position to start living under it. Our conservatives are worse than your conservatives. :-p

ReplyReply
mygif
Rob Brown said on July 16th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

Even if Omar’s actually guilty, he doesn’t deserve this. For one thing he was a minor as you pointed out, MGK. For another, I don’t think anybody deserves this kind of treatment, even the guilty. DEFINITELY not for as many years as Omar’s been subjected to it.

This is a disgrace.

ReplyReply
mygif

This is more proof, as if any more was needed, that Stephen Harper is a worthless douchebag.

I hope that the Liberals get their shit together, because the thought of a Conservative majority under Stephen Harper fills me with a cold dread.

Well, I really hope that the NDP somehow takes the reins of power, but the chances of that are… yeah…

ReplyReply
mygif

Thing is, too, if Stephen Harper would step up to the plate, then the US would have an out so they could save face without looking like a failure. They could just say, “We did it because we owed Canada a solid, and as Americans we pay our friends back. Our policy still stands.” Harper looks good because he got this kid out, America gets to look like it’s being a nice guy for its good buddy Canada. Everybody smiles.

ReplyReply
mygif

I propose we exchange Harper for Khadr. Win win situation there.

In seriousness, the fact he was a child soldier should have gotten him home years ago. I think Romeo Dallaire made a point about that, and history has proven it unwise to ignore him.

ReplyReply
mygif

Word, MGK. Word.

Whenever I try to talk about this situation, I get so angry I can barely articulate myself. The whole situation is morally reprehensible and intellectually… nonsensical.

ReplyReply
mygif
Nora Bombay said on July 17th, 2008 at 1:02 am

All I can say is that as a citizen of the US, I really really cannot wait until January 20, 2009.

ReplyReply
mygif

Hypocrisy of the “Repatriate Omar Khadr to Canada” Movement

As soon as the Gitmo interrogation tape of Omar Khadr hit the Internet, the blogosphere was flooded with demands to repatriate him to Canada. This wave is reminiscent of a Soviet campaign to free Luis Corvalán from the “fascist regime” of Augusto Pinochet thirty five years ago. The scenario is strikingly similar. A “victim” held by “fascist regimes” this time run by Bush and Harper, and a public outcry for justice. Except for the fact that Luis Corvalán didn’t kill anyone and didn’t fight for a terrorist group that wants to impose Sharia.

The “repatriate Khadr” crowd describes him as “a child”, “a kid”, “a boy”, and even “a torture victim”, with no facts to substantiate the torture claims notwithstanding. They complain about Khadr being mistreated, again, without anything to back up their claims. Some of them are outraged about “child abuse.” And they all scream for justice.

They want justice? OK, let’s talk about JUSTICE. What about justice for Sgt. First Class Christopher J. Speer, who was (according to an eyewitness) murdered by this “child”? What about justice for Tabitha Speer, who is a widow because of this “kid”? What about justice for Taryn and Tanner Speer, who are left without a father by this “a boy”? And what about all those Afghani civilians and NATO troops who are a little bit safer because this “torture victim” is behind bars? How many of these “repatriate Khadr” hypocrites concern themselves with justice for real victims? In literally hundreds of posts, we couldn’t find a single one.

One would ask, what is the reason for this idiocy? The answer is simple. Ignorance. Complete and utter ignorance. Let’s forget for a second that Omar Khadr killed Christopher Speer. Let’s forget that Khadr’s father was an al Qaeda financier. Let’s forget that Khadr’s family is known for it being al Qaeda sympathizers. Let’s just remember what this “child” was fighting for in Afghanistan.

This is what Taliban-imposed Sharia looks like in real life: http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2000/07/hypocrisy-of-repatriate-omar-khadr-to.html

Why don’t all of you, bleeding heart demagogues go to Afghanistan and spend a day in a Taliban-controlled territory? And let’s talk about Khadr when you get back. If you get back.

ReplyReply
mygif

[…] Muslims like doing, it’s defending Michael Savage). They’ve seen fit to issue a drive-by comment, reprimanding all of us who might believe that Omar Khadr be given such trivialities as “due […]

mygif
Eric TF Bat said on July 20th, 2008 at 4:51 am

He called his kids Taryn and Tanner? Ewwww! Then he was hardly blameless in all this either, was he?

ReplyReply
mygif
That guy said on July 21st, 2008 at 9:03 am

“What about justice for Sgt. First Class Christopher J. Speer, who was (according to an eyewitness) murdered by this “child”?”

Murdered? I thought he was an “enemy combatant”, aka a “soldier” or “insurgent”, making that one of the risks of war… Or are we not opening that up due to the fact that so many of your own could then be tarred as murderers as well?

Perhaps we should respect the trade of Sgt Speer and actually recognise there was a risk to, y’know armed invasion of another sovreign nation? Or is that too much to ask, to respect one’s soldiers for being willing to fight on the orders of one’s government and the risks that come with that?

ReplyReply

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Please Note: Comment moderation may be active so there is no need to resubmit your comments