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ScottyDubsSD said on October 24th, 2013 at 11:20 am

A whole post on NBA comebacks and no mention of Derrick Rose, the guy who won an MVP and missed all of last year creating a backlash amongst fans and media members?

Also, I take issue with the ridiculously dominant tag given to Oden’s one season in college. He averaged 15.6 pts and 9.5 rebounds per game. He was a 2nd-team All-American. Great, yes, but not dominant.

That said, even though the Heat can die in a fiery pit of misery (pun half-intended), it’s good to see Oden actually playing basketball again. Kudos to him for overcoming a series of medical issues that would’ve forced most players to call it quits.

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Also, I take issue with the ridiculously dominant tag given to Oden’s one season in college. He averaged 15.6 pts and 9.5 rebounds per game. He was a 2nd-team All-American. Great, yes, but not dominant.

Oden’s teams in high school and college never lost a home game, and it was later revealed that he was playing through microfracture pain even then. If you want to quibble with “dominant” that’s a battle of semantics, but his performance was nothing short of amazing on many levels.

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oh c’mon outside of the postseason flopping that Wade and Bron subject us too, The Heat come across as a pretty fun and UNITED bunch of guys.

In fact that’s always been one of the biggest reasons why i’m a Lebron fan; ive never heard a single bad thing about him from teammates and coaches and his teams always have a fun loving atmosphere.

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In fact that’s always been one of the biggest reasons why i’m a Lebron fan; ive never heard a single bad thing about him from teammates and coaches and his teams always have a fun loving atmosphere.

You can respect and even love LeBron while hating the Heat. Mostly because of Wade.

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That’s two times* you’ve dissed football recently: do you think you could do a column about your problems with it?

(*The other time was in the fantasy basketball announcement, where you claimed fantasy football is much more intensive than fantasy basketball, which is a bit weird since fantasy football only requires you to update your team once a week.)

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Corrin Radd said on October 24th, 2013 at 8:20 pm

And…didn’t Oden play his one college season with a broken hand or something? I seem to remember him having to learn to shoot free throws left handed. Dude’s amazing.

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duquesne_pdx said on October 24th, 2013 at 10:15 pm

Please. It was obvious at the time to the casual fan that Kevin Durant was the next Michael Jordan and Oden was the next Sam Bowie. Every damn day ESPN was showing their highlights right next to one another in anticipation of both of them declaring for the NBA draft after the season was done. Oden was already having knee and back problems. Kevin Durant looked unstoppable on a daily basis. And Portland picked Sam Bowie. Again. The definition of insanity is performing the same actions over again and expecting different results.

I don’t have anything against Oden, but if he makes it through the season without injury, I’ll be amazed. Nice guy. Very talented. Very injury prone.

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A player looking unstoppable in college isn’t necessarily an indicator of NBA success. A great example of that is Michael Beasley, who the Heat also signed this offseason. His college numbers are nearly identical to Durant’s. In the NBA, Beasley doesn’t really fit well at either the 3 or 4 (see also: Derrick Williams) and relies too much on long range two pointers. Also he makes some pretty dumb decisions off the court. Still, I couldn’t help but like him when he played for the Wolves, and I hope he succeeds in Miami.

In Greg Oden’s situation, I can’t help but wonder how much is Portland’s fault. Not so much in that they made a bad pick, but that their medical staff has a long history of being dangerously incompetent. Their mistreatment of Bill Walton is well documented, and even Sam Bowie was relatively healthy and productive after being traded away (a bad draft pick regardless, but still). More recently with players like Oden and Roy, Portland’s medical staff has been criticized for its handling of player rehab from injuries as well as ignoring the advice of specialists brought in to analyze their players. Some of this might have just been injury prone players and bad luck, but at the same time as Roy and Oden’s injuries, the Blazers staff was lying about the health of players they were trading away. I’m not really inclined to give Portland’s doctors the benefit of the doubt.

Of course, there’s always the possibility that Paul Allen angered some minor deity. Can’t rule that one out.

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I know very little about American sports but this was a great story – thanks very much for sharing it!

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duquesne_pdx said on October 25th, 2013 at 9:53 pm

Portland’s medical staff has been criticized for its handling of player rehab from injuries as well as ignoring the advice of specialists brought in to analyze their players. Some of this might have just been injury prone players and bad luck, but at the same time as Roy and Oden’s injuries, the Blazers staff was lying about the health of players they were trading away. I’m not really inclined to give Portland’s doctors the benefit of the doubt.

I absolutely will not disagree with you about Portland’s doctors (or staff). I don’t disagree about his talent level. I don’t disagree about college skills not necessarily translating to the pro level. It happens. That’s not what Oden’s issues are. He has immense talent. When he has been healthy, he’s a pretty good player at the NBA level (though I would argue, not a patch on Durant’s impact on a given game). My point was that Oden was showing signs of chronic back and knee problems during his season at Ohio State. He’s one of those guys that grew so damn fast that his bones never had a chance to catch up. His failure to live up to the promise that he showed was not unprecedented, but was predictable. Your point about the incompetence of the Portland medical staff does not fall on deaf ears.

I hope he is able to overcome his injuries, I really do. He seems to be a good man and a class act with a huge drive to succeed and help his team win. But if he stays off the injury list this year, I’ll be shocked.

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Pennyforth said on October 28th, 2013 at 5:41 pm

“AND WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU I BET YOU WATCH BORING FOOTBALL INSTEAD”

Actually, I’m in the camp of “don’t give a damn about any overpaid primadonnas playing any professional sport”–but, y’know, that’s just me.

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