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For a second I was worried you’d type ‘Zack Ryder.’

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Zack Ryder isn’t even the answer to Zack Ryder-themed trivia questions.

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ScottyDubsSD said on February 25th, 2014 at 11:02 am

The ‘E certainly dropped the ball on this one and rather than admit their mistake and come up with a solution, they seem intent on walking blindly into the brick wall they built themselves.

There is an option C here. Orton beats Batista at Wrestlemania. Bryan beats Triple H. The next night on Raw, Bryan demands a title shot, but is attacked by Orton, Batista (who turns heel), Kane, & Triple H prior to the match. Facing nearly impossible odds against Orton (with the other three guys at ringside), somehow Bryan pulls off the win as the crowd goes ballistic.

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My understanding is that people like Kevin Fiege (sp?) and some of the other suits at Marvel were and are really gung-ho about GotG, regardless of how the Disney megacorp feels about it. It’s the same reason they’re pushing for a Doctor Strange movie. There’s apparently already a GotG sequel tentatively planned for after Avengers 2.

And frankly, the way JJ Abrams is jerking everyone around with Star Wars, maybe it’ll be a good idea to have a backup.

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Not sure how the WWE dropped the ball when every time Bryan Main Events a PPV, barely anyone buys it.

I mean I get he’s popular, but he’s not popular with people who actually pay money for events.

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Decent scenario up there. Pity that there isn’t a MITB match on the card, as that’d be a hell of a way to get to the same goal.

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Cookie McCool said on February 25th, 2014 at 12:22 pm

Aw, I liked Batista in Riddick Adopts A Puppy! Is he really that sucky at wrestling?

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Not sure how the WWE dropped the ball when every time Bryan Main Events a PPV, barely anyone buys it.

SummerSlam was down from the year before, but slightly up on 2012. Not exactly a disaster. Bryan’s other headlining shows were saddled with some of the worst booking this side of Russo-led TNA.

Not to mention that he’s picked up a LOT of steam since then. Bryan is getting his name into the mainstream and it’d be deeply foolish not to try to do something with that.

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GotG is part of the Marvel Avengers extended movie universe, so they’ll support it with everything up to and including blood.

I haven’t watched pro wrestling since Bob Backlund lost the belt. I swear it wasn’t scripted back then. (But I was very young, so what do I know?)

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Greg Morrow said on February 26th, 2014 at 1:19 am

Guardians of the galaxy is Marvels opportunity to not merely open doors but rather stuff every door they can find into a wood chipper.

Because if they can pull off an IP which is pretty obscure outside of marvel comic enthusiasts then they can make a movie about anyone they want.

Also: It provides an opportunity to royally teabag DC which is incapable of attempting a movie that doesn’t have clark or bruce in it.

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I did have one thought about how they should have done the angle prior to this point. Batista should have been the heel from day one. I mean, it worked for The Rock, coming back in and getting hotshotted to the title. Because he’s a popular guy outside wrestling circles. Batista, to be blunt, is not.

Imagine it. He comes back in as a buddy of HHH, asking for a title shot for Wrestlemania, but the contracts for the Rumble are drawn up already and some people in the Rumble have signed them. The best way for Batista to get what he wants is to be put in the Rumble. So he goes in, and by sheer coincidence happens to draw slot 30, a number drawn by HHH himself in an obviously rigged draw. After which, the authority goes out of their way to make sure Batista wins.

The fans can draw their own conclusions, and perhaps some face or other can point it out. He’s close to the boss. It’s a blatant attempt to draw interest for a returning wrestler, while Batista blatantly does not deserve the position he’s in. He’s covered in ring rust, and the authority can spend time to wrestlemania feeding him jobbers to try to shake it off.

That’s an interesting build, provided he has an opponent that is not Randy Orton. All it needs is a good face. Doesn’t even have to be Daniel Bryan. Hell, if they put the belt on Punk, an angle like this might even have got him to stay.

But, alas. Armchair booking. It is what it is.

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I think the really frustrating thing about this is that, with the talent at their disposal and the storylines already in place, the WM we’re getting is less interesting that probably a half dozen cards you could put together virtually at random.

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I was expecting/dreading a Wrestlemania match of Daniel Bryan vs. Kane, so Bryan facing Triple H looks pretty good by comparison.

Anyway, my suggestion to avoid future situations like this one with Batista: stop making superhero movies. That way, everybody wins!

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I’ll happily chip in for those CM Punk-chairshots-to-Trips if you’re trying to crowdfund this.

But I can’t shake the feeling that if/when Bryan finally gets to the top of the pile that a lot of people are going to feel hollow. The struggle is a good watch in itself. I’m not convinced an extended reign would be.

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Ian Austin said on February 26th, 2014 at 1:42 pm

zippy8 – it’s because wrestling fans are most often self-entitled. They’ll cheer until he gets what they want, and then their interest will cool. It’s why Vince couldn’t find a babyface champion worth a damn until he stumbled onto Austin, who beat people up constantly and rarely looked vulnerable.

Of course, then fans started cheering Rock more. So Austin became a bad guy, and then the fans cheered him more. The moral of the story is wrestling fans hate good guys, like when they turn, and then cheer the new bad guys so much they’re turned again, rendering the entire point moot.

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Actually, didn’t Hell in a Cell do better than last year? And that was anticipated to be when Bryan would actually win- nobody expected Battleground to be anything important, and lo, it wasn’t.

I don’t necessarily think Bryan needs to main event WM this year, but I do think the main needs to be something other than Orton/Batista, where there is nobody to cheer for or get remotely excited about. Seriously, throw Cena in there, Bryan, Sheamus, any reasonably charismatic face, suddenly the match gets interesting.

I have no idea why they’ve kept the belt on Orton this long when he’s not drawing any reactions.

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Ian “lukewarm” Austin – yes, the audience generally only wants what it wants until it gets it. Then on to the next thing. But the reaction to Bryan chasing a belt but always missing out is working. Once he gets it… then what ? Excellent wrestler that he may be, the first steroidal behemoth that he defends against is, quite reasonably, going to squash him in 6 seconds.

As Intercontinental or oh-so-fuzzy US champ… fine… but retaining a modicum of plausibility but in wrestling might not be a bad thing.

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We could try giving Bryan the title for a few months before saying it’s a terrible idea . . .

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“Excellent wrestler that he may be, the first steroidal behemoth that he defends against is, quite reasonably, going to squash him in 6 seconds.”

Wasn’t this the same logic that screwed up Bret Hart’s title run? Hogan kept saying he was too small, they booked that crappy finish to Wrestlemania IX, he drops the belt to Yokozuna on the way out, it takes forever for Hart to be established as a legit champion…

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Ian Austin said on March 3rd, 2014 at 11:12 am

zippy8: ‘Ian “Lukewarm” Austin’

My God, we’ve travelled back in time to 1998 when other people used that oh so creative term to describe me.

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