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Whoah.

Most of the “independent” ISPs in Canada are actually re-sellers who buy bandwidth from Bell or Rogers at cost (the big guys are legally forced to offer pipe at cost for resale otherwise they wouldn’t do it) so even if you have an indie ISP like Teksavvy, Bell and Rogers are still getting your money.

This is ridiculously incorrect, an urban legend. Spreading this misinformation can only make an awful situation worse.

I use Teksavvy, and I can assure you with tremendous certainty that they do not resell bandwidth.

What they do is that they use last-mile connectivity (full throughput) from Bell or Rogers, but the internet access is 100% Teksavvy and not even slightly resold from Bell/Rogers.

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If it makes you feel better, the UK version will probably be as bad, if not worse, when it launches, as all WWE TV and PPVs are only available through Murdoch-owned Sky, and I doubt they’re going to let WWE undercut them less than 12 months after signing a new contract to keep all programming exclusive.

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So in other words Canadian cable TV is what American cable TV is about to look like once the Comcast/Time Warner merger goes through. Fun!

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@Rob – you are incorrect, all independent ISP’s are simply resellers of Bell/Rogers/Telus wholesale services.

I was part of the CMPA presentation to the CRTC on Useage Based Billing back in 2011 which involved setting the regulations for the wholesale agreements (which are, indeed, as MGK points out – forced on the incumbent BDU’s by the commission):

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2011/2011-703.htm

This is the reason that some aspects of Bell/Rogers whole-network throttling practices are applied even to Teksavvy customers (and that’s not an attack on TS – I was a customer for many, many, years – and highly recommend them).

Unless you’re buying a dial-up package (or private fibre ring for business) at some point you’re paying for wholesale Rogers/Bell/Telus network backbone. The costs of starting a high-speed ISP in Canada (even without “last mile” would be completely prohibitive.

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Also just another footnote on the OP – while everything MGK says about media concentration in Canada is *true* – that’s not necessarily the problem when it comes to the WWE Network (but it *is* a problem).

The rumblings I’ve heard is that Rogers signed some very long term content exclusivity deals when they acquired WWE programming (or rather the Score did, prior to being consumed) that didn’t take into account digital services at all.

What would make the most sense it for them to simply negotiate some sort of profit sharing agreement where they can simply get a portion of subscriber revenue from Canada (possibly in exchange for covering some of the transport costs). This is, essentially what Rogers is doing with the NHL Gamecenter app in Canada next year now that they own all NHL hockey rights in the country exclusively.

The biggest problem in this case is that the WWE is seriously rushing their global roll-out (which wasn’t planned until well into next year) to try and buoy their lower than expected US subscriber base, and investor rumblings – so there may just not have been time (or corporate resources on either side) to find a more elegant solution immediately (especially – when Rogers is severely overtaxed trying to build a multi-billion dollar, multi-platform, hockey infrastructure almost overnight out of thing air… can’t wait to see how that works out).

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Cookie McCool said on August 13th, 2014 at 12:06 pm

USA! USA! USA!

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Mark Cook said on August 13th, 2014 at 1:36 pm

@Brad: Wouldn’t an easier, more elegant solution just have been to charge the $11.99 for monthly app access and give Rogers $2? or even $14.99 and give Rogers $5?

This smacks more of Rogers wanting to keep people from abandoning their cable TV offerings – otherwise, why not offer it over-the-top given that the infrastructure for it is already in place? If they had to build it from scratch I’d be inclined to agree with you, but that’s not the case.

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@Mark Cook – I don’t disagree, I suggested the same thing in my second comment.

I suspect this is an ill-fated attempt to try and regain lost PPV revenue or something, but it’s so obviously an inferior offering to *everywhere else in the world*. All they’re going to do is drive Canadians to look into out-of-market solutions to get the far superior international feed.

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Farwell3d said on August 14th, 2014 at 8:33 pm

Dude, that fucking sucks.

I think I’m going to go watch some random event on my beautiful U.S. WWE Network.

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That. Is. Fucking. Terrible.

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“heck, right now Bell and Rogers are running ads on their own TV and radio stations under the guise of a ‘consumer advocacy group’ that additional competition in their marketplace would ‘kill Canadian jobs’ so they’re loading the deck as we speak.”

I would LOVE to hear their rationale for that.

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see this for WWE Network outside USA http://thevpn.guru/watch-wwe-network-outside-usa/

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