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RocketNinja said on October 9th, 2008 at 8:12 pm

@Skemono: To be fair, he did apologize for that and made it clear that he was only referring to the people who beat and tortured him for five years.

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I’m aware of McCain’s notpology, and I really don’t think the fact that he was referring to his captors excuses it.

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RocketNinja said on October 11th, 2008 at 6:28 pm

@Skemono: Then that’s your opinion. You can disagree with his use of the word, but it doesn’t take a genius to realize that his motives for making those comments were clearly based out of anger towards his captors, thats his own inability to let go of the past, but it still isn’t racism.

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Using a racial slur isn’t racism now? Uh-huh.

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RocketNinja said on October 12th, 2008 at 7:59 pm

Racism: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

So basically your opinion is that context plays no role in the use of racial slurs. If someone uses a racial slur, regardless of motivation, that automatically makes them a racist? That’s a bit too much of a black and white way of viewing the world for me, but you have every right to your opinion.

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So basically your opinion is that context plays no role in the use of racial slurs. If someone uses a racial slur, regardless of motivation, that automatically makes them a racist? That’s a bit too much of a black and white way of viewing the world for me, but you have every right to your opinion.
I am taking the context into account. It’s just that the context you and McCain provide is completely irrelevant. Calling someone a gook out of anger somehow means that it is not racist? That’s absurd.

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RocketNinja said on October 12th, 2008 at 10:46 pm

What’s absurd is how can you claim to take context into account and then dismiss it as irrelevant in the next sentence. If his anger towards the people who captured and tortured him for five years isn’t relevant towards why he would use a racial slur, what would constitute relevant context to you? Look at the definition of racism and then look at his comment, its quite easy to see that anger towards his captors, not a feeling of inherent superiority towards them, was his reason for using the word. I never said that his use of the word is justified, but it still doesn’t fall under racism. I’m not saying you have to condone his use of the word, and I never said that I condone it either, but his use of it is indicative of his inability to let go of the past, it isn’t racism.

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