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I dunno, people voted EA “Worst Company in America” in that big online poll deal two years running even when the competition was far, far more deserving of that title (including financial institutions responsible for shenanigans which directly led to our last recession). Never let it be said that gamers won’t direct their disproportionate sense of outrage in other directions from time to time.

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Welp, that’s the last straw. MGK, you’re a clown. This is one less bookmark I have to keep track off.

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I’m sure he’s crushed, guy on the internet who can’t simply stop reading a website he doesn’t like without comment.

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“Honestly, I read that exchange between Brett Douville and some random guy on Twitter. It was excruciating.”

And even if it did fully bring the guy around, that’s two hours of solid, in depth conversation it took to do it. There’s not time to do that with every one of these people.

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“And even if it did fully bring the guy around, that’s two hours of solid, in depth conversation it took to do it. There’s not time to do that with every one of these people.”

It’s not going to work for everyone of course, but every person you do get to at least chill out is a person who is hopefully capable of doing the same to another person.

“Like, the great takeaway I gather I’m supposed to get from that Storify (and speaking of dragging things off-topic holy shit is Twitter just the absolute worst way to engage in any sort of dialogue with anyone ever) is that “See? This guy isn’t a COMPLETE asshole!” which is maybe the lowest possible bar to hurdle ever.”

The takeaway is that it may take a herculean feat of patience but it is possible to have this discussion as a discussion and not an argument, at least with some people. Even if you’re not successful, you’re off the script, and that’s a good start.

It’s also an important realization, because treating this like it’s a war just feeds into the script the complete assholes who started this have fed to the insecure. It feeds an extremely hungry persecution complex. At some point we are all going to have to live together and we have to keep the people who think that is impossible from setting the tone of the discussion, or we end up stuck here.

(I just finished Raising Steam recently and I keep wanting to call the GamerGate organizers “grags,” but I don’t know how many people here will have frame of reference)

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“At some point we are all going to have to live together”

Actually we don’t have to and assuming we do is one of the Geek Social Fallacies. If I go to a restaurant, see a black couple sitting behind me, and start loudly complaining about dem damn darkies what do you imagine the more likely outcome of that scenario is:

1). The manager comes out, sits down, and spends two hours patiently trying to talk me through to understanding that everybody is the same under their skin, or

2). The manager comes out and tells me that I either need to keep that kind of stuff to myself or that I need to leave the restaurant.

(Insert your own Paula Deen joke here.)

This is what I meant earlier about how shitty behavior won’t ever change so long as nobody faces any consequences for it. It’s well and good and noble to talk about changing hearts and minds but past a certain point if you actually want to start detoxifying a community then you need to draw a line that says “if you can’t at least pretend to behave like a civilized human being, if it is beyond your social capabilities to at least keep your dumb, shitty opinions to yourself, then you can fuck right off.” Because otherwise you are never actually going to see any sort of meaningful change.

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“This is what I meant earlier about how shitty behavior won’t ever change so long as nobody faces any consequences for it.”

I get you, and I feel that certain members or participants SHOULD be shunned/rebuked if it’s clear that they’re only there to disrupt, or that they’re laboring under an irreparably toxic worldview.

I’d just like to weed those people out from the folks who just plain didn’t see things the “right” way. There’s value in finding someone who hasn’t really thought about ::BLANK:: and COMPELLING them to think about it.

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There is, but past a certain point it’s nobody’s responsibility for your shitty behavior but your own, whether it’s born out of malice or ignorance. You cannot in good faith expect a community to constantly be readily willing to go “Oh hey, is it that time again? Pull up a chair and let’s exhaustively and patiently explain to you why Anita Sarkeesian isn’t the boogeywoman come to steal your video games while you continue to act like an asshole” each and every time it happens.

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