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Red said on April 12th, 2009 at 9:24 am

I remember when MGK used to write about stuff other than Dr. Strange. Those were good times.

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Kelberon said on April 12th, 2009 at 9:47 am

I can’t help but think of “Creaky” as the wacky one in the Dr. Strange sitcom household. Right after Stephen drags himself home from a long day at work, Creaky bursts in with his latest findings.

“Dr. Strange! Dr. Strange! I’ve figured out how to make Jello shots throw lightning bolts! Wanna see?”

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Matt Ampersand said on April 12th, 2009 at 10:00 am

Red, I don’t know about you, but I am loving this series of posts he is writing.

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Thok said on April 12th, 2009 at 10:02 am

One quick warning: make sure you get a friend who knows a decent amount of mathematics to bounce ideas off of them before writing this character.

For example, while irrational numbers are mysterious, transcendental numbers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_number) are even more mysterious, and any competent mathematical culture has likely made that next step, unless they specifically care about irrational nontranscendental numbers which feels a bit silly.

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Bryce (Mouser) said on April 12th, 2009 at 10:03 am

I suspect that more then what he finds interesting will be the stuff he starts screaming “Get it away! Get it away!” “Creaky, it’s just a tube of lipbalm.” “GET IT AWAY!!!”

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TA said on April 12th, 2009 at 10:06 am

I’m kinda curious. Suppose Marvel calls you up tomorrow, tells you they see what you’ve been writing here and are very interested to see these concepts explored further, and offer you a MAX series, akin to Ennis’s Punisher. How many issues worth of story would you have ready to script up right now?

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Jonny Kiehlmann said on April 12th, 2009 at 10:08 am

“the next he is replaying the same Dizzee Rascal song over and over again (muttering something about syncopation)”

You’re starting to sound like Kieron Gillen. Not that that’s at all a bad thing. Been reading Phonogram?

Is Dizzee Rascal that well known outside of the UK?

I’m really enjoying this series of posts…

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BringTheNoise said on April 12th, 2009 at 10:15 am

“I remember when MGK used to write about stuff other than Dr. Strange. Those were good times.”

Damn him for using pre-prepared articles so that he can study for, and thus pass his exams! Why are we non-paying consumers his top priority? Food is for losers!

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Rian Fike said on April 12th, 2009 at 10:48 am

Spooky. The cross-cultural thing. I just posted some Tibetan Monks doing a sand painting for Easter, now this.

Speaking of Easter, I had always thought that the term “egg hunt” was the perfect metaphor for sex. Then I realized how intolerant I was being.

As for Creaky, I fear we are slipping into A Hitchhiker’s Guide to Dr. Who territory. Bad thing, or not?

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Michael said on April 12th, 2009 at 11:03 am

For every bit of high-melodrama produced in the MU, there really should be a nice counterpoint of goofiness and fun. For every Death of Steve Rogers, there should be a Creaky.

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Rian Fike said on April 12th, 2009 at 11:05 am

On second reading, without the annoying narration, this is brilliant stuff.

I will translate the Creaky myth into Vs. System and alert you when it’s finished.

Egg Hunt!

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solid snake said on April 12th, 2009 at 11:06 am

It’s a good thing. Also how much would a case of ligthning bolt throwing jello shots cost? You see I need them immediately to make work enjoyable for a multitude of reasons.

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Stig said on April 12th, 2009 at 11:09 am

Of course, what really defines the character is that he keeps his nymph-form skin in a jar and talks to it when no-one’s looking…

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Rian Fike said on April 12th, 2009 at 11:15 am

“Nymph-form Skin in a Jar.”

That’s the name of the first plot twist card.

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Locke said on April 12th, 2009 at 11:15 am

Damn, sir, these articles are fantastic. I never really got around to reading Strange, somehow, but these make me want to start, even if you /don’t/ get the job. Quick question, though: did ever read anything by Diane Duane? One of her series has a very similar view of magic to the stuff mentioned here, and an alien insect wizard of a very similar disposition.

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LurkerWithout said on April 12th, 2009 at 11:17 am

As one of the few magic heavy non-Earth groups this should all lead to a return of the Dire Wraiths. Which of course would require a certain silver-plated some-ones return as well…

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Bret said on April 12th, 2009 at 11:33 am

Wow. Previous ones have made me want to buy the comic, if, you know, it ever started existing, but now, well…

Now it’s starting to look like one of those books you pester everyone around you into reading. I mean, I’d probably buy an action figure of Creaky if it hit the market.

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Red said on April 12th, 2009 at 11:37 am

BringTheNoise: When did he mention that? I guess I might have missed it, seeing as I skim read a lot of his posts.

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Red said on April 12th, 2009 at 11:39 am

Also if we’re non-paying consumers then how does our opinion factor into him earning money for food?

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Dayv said on April 12th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

Speaking of Easter, I had always thought that the term “egg hunt” was the perfect metaphor for sex.  Then I realized how intolerant I was being.

Considering the fact that the whole eggs & bunnies motif comes from pagan fertility rites, I don’t see how that’s intolerant so much as it is apt.

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Rian Fike said on April 12th, 2009 at 12:04 pm

Creaky action figures, check.

As soon as I finish the cards.

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Zenrage said on April 12th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

Wow.. a Magic Bug Zapper.

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HitTheTargets said on April 12th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

Ehhhh… I’m always reluctant to embrace the idea of math-as-magic, but rather than bog you down with my thoughts I’ll just ax you this: How does it relate to the idea presented with Sir Humphrey that science and magic are mutually exclusive?

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John said on April 12th, 2009 at 12:37 pm

shades of Anathem in the magical calculus. Even if that was quantum and not mystical. Of course, math and magic are entwined from way back, at least until the time of Pythagoras. The movie Pi touched on this.

Still, I like the idea of alien magician. Both the Shi’ar and Skrulls have their magic traditions. So why not an intergalatic wizard council?

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MGK said on April 12th, 2009 at 12:53 pm

Suppose Marvel calls you up tomorrow, tells you they see what you’ve been writing here and are very interested to see these concepts explored further, and offer you a MAX series, akin to Ennis’s Punisher. How many issues worth of story would you have ready to script up right now?

Somewhere in between 30 and 40.

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the-bumper-car said on April 12th, 2009 at 12:56 pm

I don’t know if you’ve mentioned this before, but I’m getting a very strong “House” vibe from your Dr. Strange stories. Which I am very much in favor of.

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MGK said on April 12th, 2009 at 1:01 pm

For example, while irrational numbers are mysterious, transcendental numbers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_number) are even more mysterious, and any competent mathematical culture has likely made that next step, unless they specifically care about irrational nontranscendental numbers which feels a bit silly.

Transcendental numbers, though, are all irrational anyway (and most irrational numbers are also transcendental). So partly it’s because there’s overlap and partly it’s because the old hidebound older space dragonflies will complain your ear off about how these kids today aren’t satisfied with just studying the square root of two like they used to.

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MGK said on April 12th, 2009 at 1:03 pm

How does it relate to the idea presented with Sir Humphrey that science and magic are mutually exclusive?

In the Sir Humphrey entry, the point was that magical force was dissimilar from forces found in standard universal physics.

This is about methods of thought, which is an entirely different kettle of fish altogether and which can be much more fluid.

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ChastMastr said on April 12th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

Me wanty this!! Me wanty this!! This would be so much cooler than what Marvel’s been doing the last few years…

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HitTheTargets said on April 12th, 2009 at 1:59 pm

“This is about methods of thought, which is an entirely different kettle of fish altogether and which can be much more fluid.”

Hmmm. That could work, but I think you’d have to show that it’s math applied in a way distinctly different from how it is on Earth. It would have to have foreign, untranslatable concepts.

Actually, now that I think about it I’m strongly reminded of the math to music subplot in Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency.

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Constantinople said on April 12th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

“I remember when MGK used to write about stuff other than Dr. Strange. Those were good times.”

Yes, because what we really want is stuff about Canada’s version of Britains Got Talent or whatever that similar, godforsaken show he used to blog about. Those may have been the good times, but these are the great times.

Also, in the first of the series he wrote “April is a busy month for me – final exams and all – so I decided to get most of it done in advance. And you know what that meant, right?”

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Jonny Kiehlmann said on April 12th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

“Transcendental numbers, though, are all irrational anyway (and most irrational numbers are also transcendental). So partly it’s because there’s overlap and partly it’s because the old hidebound older space dragonflies will complain your ear off about how these kids today aren’t satisfied with just studying the square root of two like they used to.”

Yes, but most (complex) numbers are transcendental. Surely it’s more interesting to study the rarer sorts: algebraic numbers. If it’s the more plentiful, then why stick to complex numebrs?

Quaternions have more intteresting properties. Alternately, you could go against the bias towards the prime at infinity and look at the adeles. That’s where real numbers are.

(Of course, the really interesting maths comes from stopping restricting oneself to such base concerns as numbers. Group Theory, like Combinatorics, Analysis, and, ooh, more or less any mathematics that isn’t Geometry, Topology or Number Theory tends to be criminally overlooked by many key magicians. One could argue that Planetary, by invoking the symmetries of a 196884-dimensional object so often, must clearly be referencing the Griess algebra, so the Monster group. And we all know how magical Monstrous Moonshine is…)

[The trouble with using maths terminology is that you run a high risk of misusing terms, and making some of your audience realise you're talking bollocks. Still, there's a lot interesting. And the above's all true. ]

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Jonny V said on April 12th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

(a staple belief of the Chr’Ylites is that irrational numbers hold the magical secrets of the universe)

Ahh, so that’s where Numberwang came from.

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A.L. Baroza said on April 12th, 2009 at 3:01 pm

Clearly, Creaky is the Kutner analog without the suicide.

ChastMastr: exactly, which is why Marvel would never publish this. Given as how the preferred use of Doc these days is to explore how badly he wants a threesome with Clea and Wanda (which I would buy if they followed through on that).

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Andrew Burton said on April 12th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

Creakypedia?

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NCallahan said on April 12th, 2009 at 10:29 pm

One day, Creaky found the Disney channel.

The next day, there was no more Creaky.

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Christian said on April 12th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

anyone here play World Ends With You? there’s a mad math guy… he’s awesome
SO! ZETTA! SLOW!

note: i know nothing about math. and i would love if this blog was all Dr Strange, all the time

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John Seavey said on April 13th, 2009 at 9:59 am

**sigh** You just know that in fifteen years he’d be a drug-addicted prostitute who gets his head blown off on page seven of the new crossover to show how “serious” the new villain is.

Or, alternatively, he’d be the villain, having gone insane from years of studying magic. He’d probably sodomize puppies to show that he’s really, really evil.

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dan said on April 13th, 2009 at 12:09 pm

The trouble with using maths terminology is that you run a high risk of misusing terms, and making some of your audience realise you’re talking bollocks.

The not-trouble with using maths terminology is that you run a high risk of the overwhelming majority of your audience not caring.

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Lister Sage said on April 13th, 2009 at 1:30 pm

I’m trying not to think about what would happen if he got on tvtropes. I’ve spent six hours on there for no reason other then following a link. I’d hate to think of someones reaction if they went there for a reason.

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jackd said on April 13th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

Charles Stross’ “Laundry” stories also tie mathematics (and its bastard offspring, computer science) to magic in a way I’ve found damned entertaining.

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Video Beagle said on April 13th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

so did Donald in Mathmagic Land!

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Rian Fike said on April 13th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

tvtropes.org is THE BOMB.

Does anybody here contribute to the wiki there?

It sure sounds like it.

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Christian said on April 13th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

I do, a bit
a friend used it to find romance novel tropes
i never go there for a reason but yeah

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Pat! said on April 13th, 2009 at 8:24 pm

love these doc strange posts

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Bassetking said on April 14th, 2009 at 2:53 am

I dig the “Finding magic in the flow of information” thing…

Has a very “Jack Frost/Invisibles” vibe to it.

Pulls a Dane, takes the first letters of the show that’s currently on TV, turns them into a Word of Power, and Suddenly HIMYM has blown up half a city block to the sounds of Neil Patrick Harris saying “LEGENDARY”

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BringTheNoise said on April 14th, 2009 at 4:19 am
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Consumer Unit 5012 said on April 17th, 2009 at 12:24 am

NCallahan said on April 12th, 2009 at 10:29 pm:
> One day, Creaky found the Disney channel.
> The next day, there was no more Creaky.

Only Orz?

(And yes, TvTropes is a black hole of time. I love it.)

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Dan said on April 17th, 2009 at 4:55 am

When you write Dr. Strange, are there going to be ANY female characters? Like, at all?

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Beacon said on April 18th, 2009 at 12:06 am

I wonder what would happen if Creaky started hanging out with the Mathemanic from the original New Warriors series. I suspect that either the universe would implode because they discover that the “grand equation” doesn’t actually balance or (far more likely) EVERYONE (except possibly Wong) will be forced to temporarily vacate the Sanctum to avoid the super-nerdy math-talk. Either way I can’t see Strange being happy about this.

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Skemono said on April 18th, 2009 at 4:04 am

When you write Dr. Strange, are there going to be ANY female characters? Like, at all?

I refer you to “Reason #8 Why [MGK] Should Write Doctor Strange”:

Once, shortly before his death, the Ancient One sat Stephen down and told him some things that he figured Stephen would eventually have to know.

… Some of it was borne of years of life experience. (“If you are ever offered the opportunity to switch genders, make sure there is a reversal easily available beforehand. Trust me on this. Also, remember that women wear different types of socks.”)

Clearly this is going to be an important plot point. Strange is going to become a woman.

I think at that point he should change his name from “Stephen” to “Karina”. Just because I happen to know someone named Karina Strange.

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