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DistantFred said on March 1st, 2010 at 9:41 am

I kind of wish Axel had survived the Prison.

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It’s a hell of a lot easier to write a comic when you can control everything and kill off characters whenever the hell you want. This is why I think Kirkman’s work-for-hire stuff has been so lackluster.

It’s a hell of a lot harder to write corporate characters in a shared universe well than to do your own things.

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I hope there is never ever a notation after my name that reads, “Presumably eaten.” Unless it’s followed in parentheses by “(By bears.) (Just like she always wanted.)”

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I didn’t realize The Walking Dead had so many Transformers.

This is a chart ranking their strengths, right?

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I stopped reading after issue 5. I can not conceive how the world can fall to Zombies.. especially slow moving, stupid zombies.

Its like losing a war to senior citizens who rely on walkers.

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Dan Coyle said on March 1st, 2010 at 5:37 pm

#18- Death of My Interest In the Series

High five! No?

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When I was a kid, I always used to do charts like this about who was a current Avenger. Do things like that exist on line somewhere?

To Zenrage – the “world” (just the US it seems) falling to slow moving stupid zombies is surely a comment on the passivity of most people? Those who fell early failed to take responsibility for themselves and relied on others (“the government”) to protect them.

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Dr. Creaux said on March 1st, 2010 at 9:23 pm

Believe me, you get enough Senior Citizens together, things can get pretty hairy, whether they’re slow moving or not. I’ve had to fight my way out of far too many nursing homes not to be cautious.

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Well jdR, it would take a fictional apocalypse for the right wing-wing libertarians to finally be right about anything.

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I can not conceive how the world can fall to Zombies.. especially slow moving, stupid zombies.

As the movie said: “Cardio”

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doc lemming said on March 2nd, 2010 at 10:34 am

Actually, they did mathematical simulations and unless the zombie infection is caught very early, the whole “infect the living” turns out to be effective. Humanity is doomed. (Unless their assumptions in the math are wrong.)

http://www.mathstat.uottawa.ca/~rsmith/Zombies.pdf

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ZombieLand may explain how the Midwest USA falls.

However, despite it being the wet dream of every NRA card-carrying flag-waver, social order would not break down so quickly to the point where it would be every man for himself.

If there were a zombie outbreak, the rate of decomposition would suggest that we would only have to worry about those people that died in the past 10-11 months. Any corpses beyond that point that weren’t specially treated (beyond embalming) would be nothing but teeth and bones. Zombie folklore requires at least some tendons and ligaments remain.

So with current death rates (2008) and the projected current US population, we are looking at about 2.55 million zombies – or one zombie for every 121 people – in the 50 states.

Imagine a George Romero movie with that kind of survivor/zombie rate. How pathetic would that be to have over a hundred people hiding out in a mall from 1 zombie pounding at the gate?

Not to mention cremation rates are steadily increasing in the US and projected to remove about 35% of that zombie population outright, so we’re down to 1.66 million in the US.

Mind you, other countries don’t bury most of their dead. Canada has a cremation rate of nearly 60% and Japan wouldn’t have anything to worry about at all since 99.8% of their dead are cremated and buried in family plots – and the highest life expectancy. They miss, maybe, a week of work and they’re back making electronic zombie alarms for the rest of the world.

Asia might have the worst problem, but since they’re primarily military states, their respective armies should be able to handle their own zombie infestations. Unless someone tells them that zombie penis enhances male potency or something.

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doc, those assumptions are way off

First it assumes that in a conflict between zombie and a human, that everything is equal – resources, intelligence and wit. This is obviously not the case. Not even visually. As far as the ability to pick them out of a line-up, zombies rank somewhere between Nazi gestapo and Killer Klowns from outer space. As Bill Murray found out, you pretty much have to go out of your way to dress like one in order to be confused for one.

Second, it assumes other people will not intervene with the zombie hordes and only wait to be attacked and that anyone who dies by zombie attack becomes a zombie.

Third, it assumes that zombies can infect faster than they can be killed. This is wrong. Zombies, like everything else they do, kill slowly. George Romero zombies can only grab, tear and bite. and once they bite into something, they usually don’t stop biting until they’ve had their fill of brains and other organs. And if one zombie makes a kill, that will not stop other zombies from stopping to have their fill of that same person.

This third assumption also contradicts with their second assumption. If zombies eat their victims and tear them apart, the victim can no longer be effective zombies. The only way a person can be turned into an effective zombie is if they are attacked, bitten, and either was able to get away or had other people intervene.

This also assumes that the people who intervene don’t have the sense to put the bitten person out of their misery immediately and either burn or behead the corpse immediately.

They also will chase down individual people in large numbers. This is not efficient tactical behavior. Not to mention that zombies will each, individually continue to give chase regardless of what happens to other zombies.

If a person came across a mob of a few dozen zombies, it would be all too easy to lead said mob across a football field laced with landmines and gunmen in the stands getting them in their crossfire.

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In TWD, anyone that dies turns into a zombie (unless their brain is destroyed beforehand). That would definitely give certain advantages to the zombies.

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misterguy said on March 2nd, 2010 at 10:06 pm

Zenrage,

Something to consider re: the impossibility of a zombie apocalypse is that, even in most zombie movies, the situation rarely devolves into an every-man-for-himself scenario. For instance, in Night of the Living Dead (both the original and the remake), a citizens’ militia quickly rounded itself up and started taking out zombies pretty well on their own; the situation only looked so bleak because the movie was told from the perspective of one group of isolated and bone-ignorant survivors. Even when the zombies are fast, as in 28 Days Later, the devastation was confined to England (and NEVER spread to the rest of Europe in the sequel, because that movie DID NOT HAPPEN). Hell, even in the “Living Dead” series, where the zombies are not only fast, but SMART, and even tougher to kill, the zombie rampages are pretty much limited to small towns or small groups of people, and the zombies themselves quickly wind up getting contained by the military. Finally, in “World War Z,” where the zombie plague does spread to the entire globe and seriously threatens the survival of the human race, the zombies are ultimately put down and humanity adapts.

Zombie situations like The Walking Dead are outliers, in other words. Plus, as ChimpZ pointed out, the zombies there have a decided edge in that anyone who dies, for whatever reason, becomes a zombie. Also, in the series it’s pretty clear that the zombies don’t follow the rules you’d expect in terms of decaying or freezing in the winter. I dunno what rules they *do* follow, but they’ve got enough in their favor that I think the situation in that series is plausible, given what’s been shown about the zombies. (Also, as the series points out time and time again, the biggest danger to the survivors isn’t the *zombies*, but *the other survivors.*)

Cheers,
–misterguy

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Lamashtar said on March 7th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

Last week, the offspring informed us (his parents) that if we were infected he would have to kill us both.

I’m so proud.

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