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Oh MI GAADD!! TEH GHEYS are endangering my marriage! My marital bonds feel weaker!!!11!!!!
/nah
//The best of luck to Mr. Takei and his fiance. May their union be a happy one!
I was just amazed to see that Portia di Rossi has apparently settled for Ellen DeGeneres. Surely she can do better than that.
What’s really interesting is Arnold is essentially playing both sides. He vetoed an initial bill but now that the Cali Courts have said “yeah, we’re fine with it” he basically went “Okay, you win–even though I disagree.” I cannot for the life of me remember the last time a Republican ever did that.
Also, dude, MGK. I cannot believe you would miss the chance to use a Flash movie as a Gorilla soapbox–I mean, how often could you hype the message of how badly African Gorillas are on the ropes in a movie where the star villain is a Gorilla (albeit a deviant one, which could be a springboard in and of itself)?
That picture makes him look like an alien.
I thought he looked remarkably well-preserved, if a little dry and papery.
“I cannot for the life of me remember the last time a Republican ever did that.”
Gorden Smith did that when the federal government tried to strike down Oregon’s Death with Dignity laws.
It seems pretty classy of Arnold, from what little the article presents.
Yay for Mr. Sulu!
Unfortunatly we all know that this won’t last. There is a petition with over 2 million names in California to have the state constitution changed so that this will not be allowed. It will be on the November ballot. If it passes, any marriages performed will be annulled afterwards. I’m sorry, but this is not a decision that should be left up to voters. It is no one’s business but my own who I wish to marry.
You don’t see people trying to ban hetero-marriages because that will lead to children (assuming that we hold to the same moral standards that say homosexuality is wrong. So is being an unwed mother in that case.) in a world that is already facing over-population.
In the meantime, I am very happy for anyone who can take advantage of this. Maybe it won’t be for nothing in the end, and people can have the happiness they deserve.
The problem is… once that document has been issued, it really can’t be annulled except with the consent of the married parties. See. that violates two major clauses of the US Constitution, which forbids the making of Ex-Post-Facto laws and requires states to give full faith and credit to any legal document issued in any other state.
So a marriage license issued to a homosexual couple should under the constitution be legal in any other state, even if that state doesn’t issue marriage license to homosexual couples (I’m sure I’m just stating the obvious, here).
So technically, if I’m right, even if California did amend its state constitution to forbid issuing marriage licenses to homosexual couples, a case could be made that the state has to honor its own legal documents issued before that change in the law. A pretty goddamn good one, in fact.
Unfortunately I don’t think it works that way, bentarc. That’s almost exactly what happened here in Oregon: we started issuing marriage licenses, we then voted a Constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage (simultaneously voting to have John Kerry as president, I must note), and all the licenses were then revoked.
Constitution > laws, so I presume that’s the rationale — a law can be struck down on the grounds that it’s unconstitutional, even if the constitution changed after the law’s put into effect.
Heh. Then you get into the argument about the authority of the states versus the authority of the federal government; and the fact that we can tie this argument directly into an argument literally as old as the country itself is, in a way, bitchin’.
As a resident of California, I want to apologize just in case we fuck up and vote for that amendment banning gay marriage. I won’t, obviously, but I can’t speak for my fellows.
Ohh myyy!
btw.. a fellow Canadian, Uncle Ghastly is doing a George Takei sound alike contest on YouTube.
I’ve got my fingers crossed that this works out for the best.
Andre Says: As a resident of California, I want to apologize just in case we fuck up and vote for that amendment banning gay marriage. I won’t, obviously, but I can’t speak for my fellows.
And for that, when I complain about California and the messed up people there (should such a time come to pass…) I’ll take a moment to say “Oh, excet Andre!” To which everyone in the room will stop and wonder who the hell Andre is.