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bunnyofdoom said on May 19th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

As a learned man, who deals with it (I.E. Grocery store ass manager, who’s still in uni), I would guess the taste. Zero tastes more like regular coke.

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Diet Coke tastes like ass.

Coke Zero tastes worse than Diet Coke.

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“Zero” sounds way cooler than “Diet”.

I mean, let’s face it. You’re a man. You’re a manly man. You eat steak, you smoke cigars, you use sexist language without even thinking about it. You’re sure as hell not going to drink something marked “Diet”. Only pussies drink “Diet”.

“Zero”, though… You can crack a can of Coke Zero just before you go machine-gunning small deer, and nobody will think any the less of you.

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Coke Zero tastes moderately better than Diet Coke, which tastes like dog balls. But still better than regular coke and it’s high fructose corn syrup.

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Craig Oxbrow said on May 19th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

Coke Zero is advertised with explosions and half-naked girls, and Diet Coke is advertised with female-empowering lyrics and half-naked guys.

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Joysweeper said on May 19th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

Marketing.

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Illuyankas said on May 19th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

Coke Zero tastes better. Diet Coke gives me stabbing pains in the kidneys. Pepsi Max actually made me piss blood once.

I’m genuinely not kidding. And yes, I have booked a doctor’s appointment.

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As I recall, the selling point of Coke Zero is that it’s made with Splenda rather than Sweet’n’Low.

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When Diet Coke was released, it was formulated to taste differently from regular Coca Cola, as Coke was afraid that, if it were possible to get great Coke flavour with zero calories, no one would get the sugared version.

They eventually realized this was not true, so they created a zero calorie Coke variant that tasted like Coke.

And now you know the rest of the story. And knowing is half the battle.

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From here:

Coke Zero has a tad less calories and caffeine, slightly more potassium and phosphorus. Coke Zero is sweetened with a blend of aspartame (Nutrasweet) and acesulfame potassium (Sunett), whereas Diet Coke is all aspartame.

Now, Diet Coke with Splenda is almost identical to Coke Zero, except it’s sweetened with a blend of acesulfame potassium and sucralose (Splenda, obviously).

Note these are the US labels – Canada might be slightly different.

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(Per can)
Coca-Cola Classic: 142 Calories.
Diet Coke: 1.3 Calories.
Coke Zero: Zero Calories.

Coke Zero is sweetened with aspartame and acesulfame potassium (ace-k) and has zero calories. The only chemical difference between Coke Zero and Diet Coke is that Coke Zero has about half the aspartame but has more ace-k.

Confused anyone? It’s a marketing thing – Coke have manufactured a “diet” coke without using the word diet… which in their eyes will appeal to a different demographic.

http://www.diet-blog.com/archives/2005/06/14/coke_zero_confused_anyone.php

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ps238principal said on May 19th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

Coke Zero does taste a bit more like regular Coke, but its after taste is unappealing to me.

Diet Coke, once your used to it, tastes fairly consistent between fountain and bottled/canned. Coke Zero, however, tastes quite foul from your local gas station’s soda spigot.

According to Wikipedia, it’s just brewed/formulated/grown in vats differently than Diet Coke, as they both use Aspartame:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola_Zero

Coca-Cola recently announced they’d start using Stevia (a plant-derived sugar-free sweetener), but I don’t know when it’s supposed to come to market.

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Wikipedia is your friend.

“Diet Coke does not use a modified form of the Coca-Cola recipe, but instead an entirely different formula. The controversial New Coke, introduced in 1985, used a version of the Diet Coke recipe that contained high fructose corn syrup and had a slightly different balance of ingredients. In 2005, the company introduced Coca-Cola Zero, a sugar-free variation of regular Coca-Cola.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_coke

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Illuyankas said on May 19th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

Perhaps one day I’ll get a blog and have people paste answers from Wikipedia that I can’t be bothered to find myself too!

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Same difference as between Diet Pepsi and Pepsi Max. Quite shocked at how long it took Coke to do it, to be honest. Although for some reason Pepsi Max manages to avoid tasting like sweat.

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Millions of advertising and marketing dollars have been spent convincing people there is a difference between Coke and Pepsi, nevermind the derivations therein.

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Eric TF Bat said on May 19th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

Dammit – I can’t seem to find the Bloom County comic where they’re discussing the Cola Wars. Eventually, you will recall, they agree that regardless of marketing it all tastes like malted battery acid, and they prefer milk.

I’d heard that Diet Coke’s recipe was different in the US and Europe (I think Australia had the same recipe as Europe) and when they’d got their manufacturing worked out they simply imported each country’s other recipe and called it Coke Zero. So presumably the muck you drink from a Diet Coke can in Des Moines is the same muck Pierre drinks from a Coke Zero can in Versailles. Or something. But of course, There Is No God But Google (And Wikipedia Is Her Prophet) so you don’t need us to give you the answer.

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Rob Brown said on May 19th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

The possibility of having to wear the onion sombrero. All. Day. Long.

Senor.

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ootg got it — Diet Coke is in fact Diet New Coke, people just preferred it to original Diet Coke so much more that they didn’t switch it back when they undid it for the main brand. Coke Zero is the diet version of actual Coke.

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One tastes terrible. The other tastes REALLY terrible?

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KevinMatheny said on May 19th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

According to my brother, Diet Coke is for girls, whilst Coke Zero is for boys. It’s all in the marketing.

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That and its attempting to take sales away from RC’s better tasting Pure Zero line.

Mmmmmm… white grape soda.

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Scavenger said on May 19th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

As pointed above, it’s more than marketing.

They’re different recipes. Diet Coke was made to test more like Pepsi, and a sugured version of it was what was New Coke (and then Coke2).

Coke Zero is a diet version of regular Coke.

Now, here’s the real question:
What’s the different between “Wavy Layes” and “Ruffles”

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Kid Kyoto said on May 19th, 2009 at 11:31 pm

In South America we had coke in glass bottles made with actualy sugar (not corn syrup).

It was the greatest thing I ever had.

I would pay double for someone in the US to make coke with sugar.

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Diet Coke Plus is actually the Coke analogue to Pepsi Max.

In my opinion, Coke Zero tastes like zombified real Coke, while the two Diet Cokes have a distinct taste. They might still taste horrible, but at least they’re not trying to be something they’re not.

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One is still made with cocaine, and they refuse to admit which.

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In Britain, those of us who see through the marketing refer to the latter as “Coke Bloke”. It’s basically there so that ‘macho’ men can drink it without feeling as if people think they might possibly resemble less ‘macho’ men.

Coca-Cola: Adding that fresh slice of testosterone-driven manic paranoia to your drinking experience!

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Ellibelli said on May 20th, 2009 at 5:04 am

I know that Coke Zero sucks as a mentos propellant. That and it tastes awful.

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Diet Coke is made with the blood of our enemies.
Coke Zero is people! It’s people!!!

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MartinNr5 said on May 20th, 2009 at 7:31 am

Marketing, no matter what the official spin is.

Zero = guys, Diet = girls.

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LordAbell said on May 20th, 2009 at 8:38 am

The difference is that Diet Coke tastes like ass, and is everywhere. Coke Zero tastes a little less like ass, and is nowhere.

Also: Never combine the two, it’s like crossing the streams.

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Lister Sage said on May 20th, 2009 at 9:25 am

I have no idea. I drink Pepsi.

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@Kid Kyoto

Coke with real sugar is not that hard to find in the US. Just look for glass bottles with Mexican words on it (a slapped on english label will say it contains fructose, but its lying).

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Coke Zero is delicious and Diet Coke tastes like the metal can it’s packaged in.

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karellan said on May 20th, 2009 at 11:55 am

There’s been so many comments already that I’m sure no one cares any more, but I always thought Coke Zero kind of tasted like someone mixed half regular Coke and half Diet Coke. It doesn’t have quite so much of that rancid, “Diet Coke” taste, but at the same time you can tell it’s not really 100% regular Coke.

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I’m kind of ashamed to admit it, but regular Coke tastes a little strange to me now that I’ve weaned myself almost entirely onto Coke Zero.

(And I’m one of those people who has ignored half a case of Pepsi in her fridge while buying new cases of Coke.)

Yeah, it’s marketing. “Diet” anything just sounds obnoxious; I feel self-conscious buying it, akin to ordering a salad, especially as a woman. Plus the Zero can looks cooler.

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What is the difference between having sex and making love? Between knowledge and enlightenment? Between redemption for our sins and a truly good dump?

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Ambrael said on May 20th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

I never got the point of diet cola. I happen to like high fructose corn syrup in a drink. The sugar derivatives are at least half the point. If you don’t want actual cola, why even bother? I have similar problems with tofu. I just don’t follow the logic (if that is the right word).

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Patrick C. said on May 20th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

@JohnW

“Coke with real sugar is not that hard to find in the US. Just look for glass bottles with Mexican words on it (a slapped on english label will say it contains fructose, but its lying).”

Seconding this. I can find Mexican Coke (as it is called) in pretty much any area grocery or convenience store. You can recognize them by their half-liter glass bottles.

That said, I live in Texas, so proximity to the border might have something to do with its ready availability. Whether or not it’s so easy to find in, say, Montana is a good question.

It’s worth the hunt, though. It’s vastly superior to regular Coke. I also encourage everybody to try Dr. Pepper with cane sugar, if they should ever get the chance.

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Canadian Coke is made with a mixture of glucose-fructose (corn syrup ) and real sugar, so depending on how the batch was mixed, the goodness of the Coke tends to be on a spectrum.

Also a good place for cane-sugar Coke: grocery stores in Jewish neighbourhoods (especially around Passover). Cane-sugar is KFP, corn syrup is not.

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Odd King said on May 20th, 2009 at 2:51 pm

There’s been so many comments already that I’m sure no one cares any more, but I always thought Coke Zero kind of tasted like someone mixed half regular Coke and half Diet Coke. It doesn’t have quite so much of that rancid, “Diet Coke” taste, but at the same time you can tell it’s not really 100% regular Coke.

I thought that was C2.

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The addictive chemicals used in Diet Coke were designed back in the 1980s. The addictive chemicals used in Coke Zero were designed in 2239 and fell through a temporal wormhole to 2004, causing a predestination paradox. THAT’S your difference.

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Andrew W. said on May 20th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

In my part of Canada, we are deprived of Mexican Coke. Unfortunately the city I live in isn’t big enough to have any really ethnic neighborhoods with shops and such that cater specifically to said ethnicities.

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I’m drinking a Coke Zero right now. You have inspired me.

Inspired me to drink cancer!

Ahhh, whatever…

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n Britain, those of us who see through the marketing refer to the latter as “Coke Bloke”. It’s basically there so that ‘macho’ men can drink it without feeling as if people think they might possibly resemble less ‘macho’ men.

*****
Marketing, no matter what the official spin is.

Never let pesky facts like that they taste different deter a nice parnoid rant…

Now back to the Wavy Lays vs Ruffles…

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Wow, I guess I’m the first person to mention that, many moons ago, PepsiCo launched “Pepsi One”, a diet soda designed to taste more like Coke.

Here’s a link to Tom Green hawking it, circa 1999:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwfdm0Yba3M

I can’t find the commercial where someone accidentally drinks a can of Pepsi One, thinking he’s really drinking real Coke, but I remember one.

Not to be out-done, of course, Coke launched “Coke Zero”, which is supposed to taste more like regular Coke. It uses a different sweetener.

Personally, I don’t like non-diet soda. It’s so sugary, it makes my teeth hurt. I especially don’t like your cane-sugar Canadian soda.

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Cherry Coke Zero is really great.

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