One of the things that I genuinely adore about writing for mightygodking.com instead of my own blog is that I get a lot of comments. People love to give feedback on what I’ve written (and ultimately, that’s what every writer really wants, to know that people are listening. Money is just a measurement of that, albeit one that can be used to pay your rent.)
But after a while writing for a high-traffic blog on the Internet, you do start to notice that no matter what you say, someone disagrees with it. I’m not complaining about it; you don’t get into writing, especially writing opinion pieces, if you don’t have enough confidence in your opinions to avoid taking disagreement personally. But I am curious. Is there really any opinion out there that everyone, absolutely everyone can agree on? Is there something we all like?
So, here’s the experiment. I’m going to name ten movies that I consider to be awesome. Not the ten best movies of all time, or the ten all-time classics; just ten movies that I love, and that I could sit down and watch at any time and enjoy them. And in the comments, you can either add movies to that list, or veto movies that someone has added. You don’t need to defend your choices, either to add or to subtract. In fact, I don’t want you to; I’d prefer that the comments not get bogged down in a big argument about whether or not “Buckaroo Banzai” sucks. I’ll try to go back and edit the list occasionally, so people can see at a glance what the current content is, and we’ll see if anything survives as something everyone on the Internet could sit down and watch together.
UPDATE: I went through the first sixty-two comments and updated the list based on everyone’s new picks and vetoes. A few points I want to clarify for future commenters: You do not, I repeat not need to take something off the list in order to put something on. The list can be as long as it needs to be. Comments that said “replace X with Y” were treated as “Veto X, Add Y”. Also, there is no need to re-nominate or re-veto a movie. I won’t take anything off unless it’s vetoed, and once it’s vetoed, it can’t go back on even if someone nominates it again. The whole point is finding films everyone wants to watch! (If you want to make my life easier, you can just make your comments: “Veto: A, B, C, D” and “Add: E, F, G, H” so that it’s easy to figure out what you want me to add and remove. Also, it’d help if you mentioned whether you meant the original or the remake. I assumed the original unless otherwise specified.) Oh, and sorry, but if you nominated a film specifically to watch the Rifftrax version of it, that doesn’t count.
The current list:
The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938), Alien, Aliens, Animal House, Apocalypse Now, Army of Darkness, Before Sunrise, Before Sunset, Better Off Dead, The Big Lebowski, Billy’s Hollywood Screen Kiss, The Blues Brothers, Das Boot, Bringing Up Baby, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Chinatown, City Lights, A Clockwork Orange, Dawn of the Dead, Death to Smoochy, Doctor Strangelove, Donnie Darko, Empire Records, The Empire Strikes Back, Enter the Dragon, Fargo, Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, Fight Club, Forbidden Planet, The Full Monty, Ghostbusters, The Godfather, The Good the Bad and the Ugly, High Society, Highlander, The Hudsucker Proxy, Hunt for Red October, In Bruges, It’s a Wonderful Life, It’s My Party, Jaws, Juno, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, LA Confidential, Last Night, Last of the Mohicans, Latter Days, Little Miss Sunshine, Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, Lone Star, Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Rings, Memento, Metropolis, Miller’s Crossing, MirrorMask, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Moon, Muppet Christmas Carol, The Muppet Movie, Murder by Death, Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie, Night of the Living Dead, One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, Perseopolis, The Princess Bride, The Producers, The Professional, Pulp Fiction, The Quiet Earth, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Ransom, Rebecca, The Right Stuff, Ronin, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead, Rushmore, Ruthless People, The Shining, Silver Streak, Snatch, Sneakers, The Specials, Spider-Man 2, Star Trek (2009), Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, The Sting, The Terminator, Thank You For Smoking, The Thing, The Third Man, Throne of Blood, Time Bandits, Unforgiven, The Untouchables, Watership Down, Willow, The Wizard of Oz, Used Cars, The Valet, X-Men 2, Yellowbeard, Young Frankenstein
The Vetoed List (remember, once it goes on this list, it can’t come off):
Airplane, Amelie, Avatar, Back to the Future, Big Trouble in Little China, Blade Runner, Blazing Saddles, Brazil, Breakfast at Tiffany’s, A Bug’s Life, Caddyshack, Chasing Amy, Children of Men, Clue, Contact, Cowboy Bebop, Dangerous Liasons, The Dark Crystal, Dogma, Drunken Master 2, Evil Dead II, The Fifth Element, Finding Nemo, (500) Days of Summer, The Goonies, Groundhog Day, Happy Gilmore, Hot Fuzz, Hudson Hawk, The Incredibles, Iron Man, Jacob’s Ladder, The Jerk, Jurassic Park, Labyrinth, Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, Love Actually, The Matrix, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, Monsters, Inc., Pan’s Labyrinth, The Patriot, Pee Wee’s Big Adventure, The Philadelphia Story, Police Story 3, Ratatouille, Repo Man, Schindler’s List, Serenity, Sexy Beast, Shaun of the Dead, The Shawshank Redemption, Shrek, Silverado, Sin City, Star Wars, Stargate, Starsky and Hutch, Tenacious D: The Pick of Destiny, The 13th Warrior, 30 Days of Night, This Is Spinal Tap, Tombstone, Tommy Boy, Toy Story, Toy Story 2, 12 Monkeys, 28 Days Later, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Unbreakable, Up, The Usual Suspects, WALL-E, When Harry Met Sally, Zombieland, Zoolander
There we go; let the consensus-building continue!
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I’d like to add WALL-E. (Really, you could just go ahead and add any Pixar film to the list.)
I find absolutely nothing wrong with that list.
DC
I won’t veto Evil Dead II, but I’d definitely add Army of Darkness.
I don’t like Big Trouble in Little China.
I haven’t seen all those, but a) I like the ones I have seen, and b) I haven’t heard anything about the other three that’d make me want to knock them off the list. Here are a few that might go on my list (I’ll try to restrict it to geek-type movies):
The Incredibles
Willow
The Goonies
The Specials
Oh, jeez. Can’t veto any of them, just adding:
1) Alien
2) The Dark Crystal (I wouldn’t seek it out anymore, but if I stumbled upon it I’d watch)
3) The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
4) Better Off Dead
5) Jacob’s Ladder
6) The Muppet Movie
7) Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
The only one of those I haven’t seen is Clue, which tells me I should probably see that.
I second Army of Darkness, and would add 12 Monkeys and/or Time Bandits to the list.
In the interests of awesome, and of keeping a zombie movie on the list, I would replace Shawn of the Dead with Zombieland. I would also add The Incredibles, and Enter the Dragon.
Evil Dead 2 is not all that.
The rest of that list is genius, as are most of the suggestions.
I would like to add ‘Serenity’ and ‘Repo Man,’ the world’s first truly punk movie and the finest performance of Emilio Estevez’s career.
Why ZOMBIELAND over SHAUN?
The latter is far more involved with Romero–and therefore a truer celebration of the zombie and horror genres in general–while the former is just a fine, fun movie.
Remove Clue.
Put on The Fifth Element.
The Pixar movies, except for Cars, should be a 12-way tie.
The original Night of the Living Dead should be on the list too. Genre definer.
Oh, and the Goonies needs to come off the list.
Veto Zombieland, Jacob’s Ladder.
Add Dawn of the Dead and The Lord of the Rings (Fellowship, if I have to choose).
Definitely keep Shaun over Zombieland. Zombieland was great, but Shaun is better.
I’ve never seen Clue.
Vetoes:
* The Fifth Element
Seconding:
* Incredibles
* Zombieland
Love the list so far. Can’t find anything I’d really veto. Adding more, though (in no particular order):
– Zoolander
– Donnie Darko
– Hunt for Red October
– Blazing Saddles
– Young Frankenstein
– The Hudsucker Proxy
– Ronin
– The Pick of Destiny
– Forbidden Planet
Not big on Clue, love the idea of throwing The Incredibles on there. Otehrwise, I’m cool with it.
I’m no geek. I hate Toy Story 2 and I’ve never seen Clue. :p
I’d drop Iron Man, Toy Story 2 and Evil Dead 2 for Miller’s Crossing, WALL-E (or maybe Lilo & Stitch) and Army of Darkness (or maybe Silverado). And maybe Clue for Empire Records…
This is hard…
How can it be that this many people haven’t seen Clue? One of Tim Curry’s best performances.
That being said, I love this list and would watch any of them.
Contact
Pulp fiction
Das Boot
Apocalypse now
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Airplane
Hot Fuzz
1.) The 13th Warrior
2.) The Patriot
3.) Last of the Mohicans
4.) Pulp Fiction
5.) Love Actually
6.) Untouchables
7.) Unforgiven
8.) L.A. Confidential
9.) Serenity
10.) Big Trouble in Little China
Veto Serenity.
The off-the-top-of-my-head list:
1). Brazil
2). Little Miss Sunshine
3). Before Sunrise
4). Before Sunset
5). Sexy Beast
6). Schindler’s List
7). The Third Man
8). The Godfather
9). Airplane
10).Pulp Fiction
There are three movies that I am almost *compelled* to finish watching if I happen to see them on the screen:
* The Blues Brothers
* The Shawshank Redemption
* Ferris Bueller’s Day Off
They aren’t really “geeky” movies, though.
Seconding The Incredibles, Fifth Element, and Pulp Fiction as alternate choices.
The problem is that I have *no* idea what I’d want to take off…. wait, no. Clue and Toy Story 2. Incredibles goes instead of Toy Story 2. Maybe Blues Brothers instead of Clue?
Repo Man is vetoed with extreme prejudice.
Personal alterations built from base list:
1. Jurassic Park
2. Aliens
3. Ghostbusters
4. Big Trouble in Little China
5. Evil Dead II
6. Raiders of the Lost Ark
7. The Empire Strikes Back
8. Snatch
9. The Incredibles
10. Pan’s Labyrinth
Wait, scratch Pan’s Labyrinth, replace with either Brazil, Children of Men, Metropolis, or Blade Runner. Or don’t. This is the “pure film-making artistry” slot for me.
Shaun OF The Dead
City Lights
Thank You For Smoking
28 Days Later
Breakfast At Tiffany’s
(500) Days Of Summer
Hot Fuzz
Young Frankenstein
Toy Story/Bug’s Life/Toy Story 2/Monster’s Inc./Finding Nemo/The Incredibles/Cars/Wall-E/Up
Children Of Men
Shaun OF The Dead
City Lights
Thank You For Smoking
28 Days Later
Breakfast At Tiffany’s
(500) Days Of Summer
Hot Fuzz
Young Frankenstein
Toy Story/Bug’s Life/Toy Story 2/Monster’s Inc./Finding Nemo/The Incredibles/Cars/Wall-E/Up
Children Of Men
Star Trek (2009)
Definitely Zombieland AND Shaun of the dead PLUS 28 Days Later
Mr & Mrs Smith
Definitely Serenity
Iron Man
30 Days of Night
Hot Fuzz
Lock, Stock & Two Smoking Barrels
Veto Pan’s Labrynth, Children of Men, all the cartoons except The Incredibles, Shawshank and Sexy Beast
Returning to 2nd Pan’s Labyrinth. Vetoing Mr. and Mrs. Smith.
Just to clarify: The list can end up bigger or smaller than ten. I just used ten as a starting point to get discussion going. Also, once something’s been vetoed, it’s vetoed. No matter how many people like it, if even one person dislikes it, it’s gone.
This is a combined list, as the boyfriend and I are gradually working our way into combining our mental space:
*Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang
*Sneakers
*Dogma
*Shrek
*Groundhog Day
*5th Element
*Serenity
*Raiders of the Lost Ark (or Star Wars, depends on who wins the coin toss)
*The Usual Suspects (as a stand in for all of those “crime stories told in odd fashions” movies I like
*Big Trouble in Little China
add Hudson Hawk. (i know its gonna get veto’d but Bruce Willis as a campy thief! awesome.) Veto groundhog day, usual suspects, 28 days later, 30 days of night, hot fuzz, breakfast at tiffany’s, brazil, schindler’s list, everything pixar ever did, airplane and love actually.
I haven’t seen a lot of these movies (I don’t watch a lot of films).
I like YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN, but if you’re putting the parody on in place of the actual Karloff films, your priorities are messed up.
Blazing Saddles
Dragon Wars(with the Rifftrax)
Tommy Boy
Zoolander
Brazil
Blade Runner
Highlander (the original)
Starsky & Hutch
Ghostbusters
Caddyshack
Animal House
Hot Fuzz
Fight Club
Clue and Big Trouble in Little China are okay, but not worthy of the list. I also vote for Incrediibles, as well as Amelie.
Nobody agrees with that one, huh.
Aliens, Blade Runner, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Dawn of the Dead, The Right Stuff, Yellowbeard, Murder By Death, Throne of Blood, Used Cars, and Jaws
Clue and Big Trouble in Little China are honestly the only two I could re-watch on your list but I’m not sure they’d make my all-time, I can watch and re-watch list. I guess mine would be
1. It’s My Party
2. Latter Days
3. Billy’s Hollywood Screen Kiss
4. Better Off Dead
5. Ruthless People
I know that’s only five but when I almost got up to look at my DVD shelves to make the list an even ten I figured that meant I should stop the list at five…
Veto Zoolander and Starsky & Hutch and any other Ben Stiller movies suggested so far. Don’t care for Shrek but any Pixar flicks are fine. Kind of surprised no one vetoed Willow. I’m not, love that movie, but surprised.
I would add Lone Star, the only Matthew McConaughey movie I can stand. Which reminds me: veto to Contact.
A big second to Sneakers and Lock, Stock.
1. 2001
2. Watership Down (for some reason, I like it better in French, w/ English subtitles)
3. Cowboy Bebop
4. Ronin
5. Star Wars IV (wishing I could find an unmolested version)
6. When Harry Met Sally
7. Stargate
8. Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
9. The Valet
10. Amelie
Okay, I have to protest here — you can’t veto “everything X ever did” … fine: I veto everything not recorded digitally 😉
Broad strokes ruin the purpose in my mind …
Just sayin’ =)
Big veto for Zoolander and Tommy Boy, and a veto with less prejudice for the Dark Crystal.
I’d add Labyrinth to the list; David Bowie and muppets, how can you not watch that? (Yeah, I know, I vetoed Dark Crystal, there’s a fine line.)
I’d also add some Errol Flynn; let’s go with his Robin Hood, that’s classic Flynn.
Aww, you vetoed Zoolander? Damn.
I watched Raiders tonight, actually, with a friend of mine I’ve been comparing to Marion Ravenwood. Half an hour in she said she understands the comparison.
I don’t have any vetos, but I’d like to add Death to Smoochy; I know it will be vetoed fairly quickly but I love that movie.
The initial list is actually pretty great. Clue is a goddamn classic. I have seen that thing countless times since I was a kid and I can still watch it and laugh my ass off.
I guess personally I would replace a couple:
Evil Dead II. Never really dug the Evil Dead movies that much. I’d pick The Thing.
I’ve lost a lot of love for Star Wars so I would change that for something like Blade Runner. Or Moon which I thought was awesome.
I second The Incredibles as I think it’s better than the Toy Story’s, great as they are.
I did like Iron Man but I would change that for Unbreakable. Still is my favorite great comic book movie to date
Before I forget, veto Amelie with extreme prejudice
AAE: We (the wife and I) just got the Star Wars IV – VI boxed set, which has the untouched originals along with the revamped versions. I think you can get them singly as well.
I’ll refrain from vetoing at the moment as I’m stunned by some of the films shot down.
Gladly seconding a mess of the ones proposed, particularly Moon.
Adding Perseopolis and Memento.
veto Labyrinth
veto Stargate
veto 2001
veto Unbreakable
add The Professional
add The Matrix
Hmm, interesting. I have never got the appeal of Clue I’m afraid. Found it cringe-inducing when I watched it. And I love Madeleine Kahn.
Anyway. Some suggestions. And I second the Stargate and Unbreakable veto.
The Quiet Earth
The Big Lebowski
Last Night (it’s criminal that this film by Don McKellar doesn’t have a dvd release)
Silver Streak
Bringing Up Baby
The Producers
MST3K The Movie (riffing This Island Earth)
Replace Iron Man with Spider-man 2. Iron Man is awesome when it’s Tony Stark: The Movie. As soon as he starts fighting, it kinda sucks.
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Maximum veto on “The Matrix”. Hate it so much…
Might as well toss my list on there too. (In no particular order
1. This is Spinal Tap
2. Pee Wee’s Big Adventure
3. Shaun of the Dead
4. Chasing Amy
5. The Jerk
6. Ratatouille
7. Juno
8. Fargo
9. Rushmore
10. Sin City
Great idea, too bad your idea appointed no one to collate results!
Veto:
Iron Man (c’mon, too soon)
Serenity
Pee Wee’s Big Adventure
The Matrix
5ht Element (it’s love!)
Avatar
The Patriot
Add:
Groundhog Day
Ferris Bueller’s Day Off
Empire Strikes Back
Drunken Master 2
Police Story 3 (Supercop)
The Jerk
This Is Spinal Tap
Airplane
Caddyshack
Back to the Future
Tombstone
Silverado
Zoolander
Philadelphia Story
Dangerous Liaisons
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Blade Runner
Brazil
The Sting
The Godfather
Blazing Saddles
Dr. Strangelove
Chinatown
A Clockwork Orange
The Shining
One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest
The Full Monty
Happy Gilmore
Apocalypse Now
Ghostbusters
Happy Gilmore
The Wizard of Oz
The Terminator
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
From that list, Veto ‘Happy Gilmore’, twice, and replace with Alfred Hitchcock’s ‘Rebecca’. Veto ‘Caddyshack’ and replace with ‘It’s A Wonderful Life’. Veto ‘This Is Spinal Tap’ and replace with ‘Little Miss Sunshine’. Veto ‘The Jerk’, replace with ‘Muppet Christmas Carol’. Veto ‘Philadelphia Story’ for the far more energetic ‘High Society’.
Veto ‘Back to the Future’, ‘Tombstone’, ‘Silverado’, ‘Drunken Master 2’, ‘Police Story 3 (Supercop)’. So, NEW LIST:
Groundhog Day
Ferris Bueller’s Day Off
Empire Strikes Back
The Muppet Christmas Carol
Little Miss Sunshine
Airplane
It’s A Wonderful Life
Zoolander
Philadelphia Story
Dangerous Liaisons
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Blade Runner
Brazil
The Sting
The Godfather
Blazing Saddles
Dr. Strangelove
Chinatown
A Clockwork Orange
The Shining
One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest
The Full Monty
Apocalypse Now
Ghostbusters
Rebecca
The Wizard of Oz
The Terminator
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
NEW VETO LIST:
Iron Man
Serenity
Pee Wee’s Big Adventure
The Matrix
5ht Element
Avatar
The Patriot
Drunken Master 2
Police Story 3 (Supercop)
The Jerk
This Is Spinal Tap
Caddyshack
Back to the Future
Tombstone
Silverado
Philadelphia Story
Happy Gilmore
your list is perfect.
i just think it would be even better if it included Back to the Future (maybe instead of Iron Man, which is a great movie but too recent compared to the others)
I’d like to repeat the nominations of
12 Monkeys
Fight Club
Blues Brothers
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
and suggest adding
In Bruges
The Incredibles
Finding Nemo and
Up
none of which had been previously mentioned by name
Oh, and veto (500) days of summer, on grounds that, much as I enjoyed it, there’s a lot of times I couldn’t watch it. Purely down to a mood thing, more than anything.
[I saw it on a plane, actually, then got the DVD. The plane edited version is brilliant.
“She literally just sit on my face.”
“Wait, literally sit on your face? That’s disgusting.”
]
we should try this game on indiekids. every time a given film got put on the list often enough, theyd be compelled to take it off again as no longer being sufficiently unpopular to be good. theyd be trapped at it for ever.
Updated the list to include everyone’s comments. Also, added Ransom, X-Men 2, and MirrorMask; and vetoed Blade Runner, Blazing Saddles, Chasing Amy, Cowboy Bebop, Dangerous Liasons, Dogma, Hudson Hawk, Jurassic Park, Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, Sin City, Tenacious D: The Pick of Destiny, The 13th Warrior, Tommy Boy, 12 Monkeys, and When Harry Met Sally. (Remember, you don’t have to give reasons. 🙂 )
Add Dog Soldiers.
Add Shaolin Soccer.
Add Kung Fu Hustle.
Add The Rocketeer. Crime that it’s not on there yet. And Flash Gordon!
My heart is broken that Back to the Future and Groundhog Day have been thrown on the veto list, but extremely surprised Juno has not been vetoed yet (this is not a veto, I enjoyed it).
Vetoing It’s A Wonderful Life and submitting Vertigo instead. (One Jimmy Stewart deserves another) Also vetoing The Shining.
Submitting Spirited Away, The Maltese Falcon, Casablanca, and Die Hard.
I can’t stand “Top 10” lists as they are so… calculated. One entry is the “surprise entry”, the other is the “obvious entry”… they’re designed, not chosen.
So I came up with this idea of people just coming up with their ten favourite films, not the best, their favourite, the ones that they love and would watch again and again, and every time I bring this up I am amazed at what’s chosen because ONLY THAT PERSON would make a list like that.
One of my friends had MY FAIR LADY and THE MUPPET SHOW MOVIE on her list, another friend had EDWARD SCISSORHANDS, another MAN ON THE MOON – and it is so very self-revelatory.
One of my friends had a list that had three clear divisions; Gangster movies, Sci-fi dystopias… and stoner comedies. One of my friends had 300 and… SINGING IN THE RAIN on the same list. Another listed of LAWRENCE OF ARABIA, CASABLANCA, RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, and STAR WARS, paused and said, “Huh… I like sand.”
So I love lists like these, because they’re no discussion about quality nor mise-en-scene or socio-political context or any of that rubbish, but only about WHY you bother seeing movies in the first place; the love of story. People just talk about what they love.
Here’s mine, in no order;
THE TRANSFORMERS: THE MOVIE (1986 cartoon), TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY, THE DARK KNIGHT, DUMB AND DUMBER, BACK TO THE FUTURE PART 2, THE FUGITIVE, GROUNDHOG DAY, CLUE, THE USUAL SUSPECTS, and SEVEN.
And I sat there and wondered why those movies. I was surprised that films I love like JFK, THE PRINCESS BRIDE, THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION and HOT FUZZ weren’t on my list and I realised that all those films came out (or I saw) before I turned 16. All of them. I love movies I saw as a kid.
And I saved space for a Batman movie.
I love this kind of list.
So the “Geek Consensus” list doesn’t appeal to me too much, but each individual’s top 10 does, and I’d love to see more of those.
vetoing the big lebowski
adding the dark knight
the bourne identity
terminator 2
Veto:
Animal House
Doctor Strangelove
Fargo
Juno
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Rings
X-Men 2
If I were more awake I might try to add a movie, but that requires too much thought right now.
They’ll never last, because not everyone is a miserable depressive bastard like me, but I’m nominating First Blood and Vanishing Point.
And veto It’s a wonderful Life.
Veto: Death to Smoochy
Yellowbeard
Little Miss Sunshine
Add: The Godfather Part II
King Kong (original only, thank you)
The Descent
Notorious (Hitchcock)
Theater of Blood (Vincent Price at his finest)
There isn’t. There’s no anything, let alone movie, that 100% of people will agree on. I saw all of my favourite, most rewatchable movies on the Veto list, and further, it doesn’t look like there’s collation going on. So I think that this exercise is just an opportunity for some people to make other people angry.
It’s been successful!
Veto Apocalypse Now, It’s a Wonderful Life and (people are goin’ to hate me) Fellowship of the Ring.
Add Point Blank and Star Trek IV
veto:
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Rings
Rushmore
and before you even add it, delete Patrick’s suggestion of Point Blank
add:
Cabin Boy (yeah right, this will last)
Robocop
Predator
The Crow
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
12 Monkeys
I would also like to say that I think some of the movies that are still on the list are only there because no one has seen them or has any opinion on them either way. The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938) probably falls into this category.
Veto: Fight Club, Empire Records, Its a Wonderful Life, Juno, Little Miss Sunshine
Add: Clerks, Mallrats, The Fly (1986), The Mist, Slither
Veto:
Ransom
Add:
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Scarface
Man, BLADE RUNNER got vetoed? Okay, the criterion IS “…movies that [we] love, and that [we] could sit down and watch at any time and enjoy them,” and as big a geek as I am, I have to be in the right mood to plug it in.
I can’t believe that BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA didn’t make that cut, though. When that was making the cable rounds a few years back, I was cheerfully sitting through it every six to eight weeks.
Sigh.
That said … I nominate EQUILIBRIUM, because that’s one I can always, always watch. It combines an homage to an entire genre of thought-provoking science fiction with a high-octane action movie, and leaves most bigger-budget Action-SF in the dust.
I also nominate THE COURT JESTER, which may be one of Danny Kaye’s finest tour-de-forces. “The pellet with the poison’s in the vessel with the pestle; the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true!”
And let’s throw in ARSENIC AND OLD LACE, too. “Insanity runs in my family — it practically GALLOPS!”
I would also like to answer Karellan’s comment about The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938): I doubt that I’m the only reader who HAS has seen it, has VERY strong opinions about it, and would most definitely have nominated it if it weren’t already on the list.
“Why, you speak treason!” “Fluently.”
(Yes, quotability is high on my Geek Movie Criteria.)
Veto: Clerks, Mallrats, the Crow
Add:
Adaptation
Being John Malkovich
Blue Velvet
the Departed
Iron Monkey
Old Boy
Princess Mononoke
TOTAL RECALL (1990)
TRADING PLACES (1983)
Videodrome
I can’t believe some of the stuff getting vetoed. How can you not like Spinal Tap or Blazing Saddles?
Add:
Batman Begins (better than Dark Knight in my opinion)
Kill Bill
Knocked Up
Planet of the Apes (original)
Bubba Ho-Tep
Rocky (the original, not the 5 billion sequels)
Die Hard
Veto: Donnie Darko (terrible ending and vastly overrated by all the teenagers on their myspace profiles)
Veto: Little Miss Sunshine (seriously?!? That cynical piece of crap?!?) and Used Cars (sorry if I’m a spoilsport there, but I really don’t get the love for this one.
Nominate: Goodfellas.
The Incredibles got vetoed? Seriously? If that’s the case, I have a hard time believing there’ll be anything resembling a consensus for any of these movies….
Oh, and Veto DONNIE DARKO. It not only fails my “watch any old time” test, it fails my “sit through it past the first reel” test.
(As the youngsters mumble, “What’s a reel?”)
And Shaun of the Dead got vetoed for fucking Zombieland?!? Jesus.
I’m looking through the comments and I’m not seeing where The Incredibles got vetoed. I think that might have been a misunderstanding.
Screw people who don’t like Fight Club & Donnie Darko.
(Seriously, Your Obedient Serpent, “what’s a reel?”?! And yet you consider Equilibrium ‘thought-provoking’…that kinda speaks for itself, I suppose. Your loss!)
Veto Spider-man 2.
Add Grosse Pointe Blank.
Also, it’s been vetoed now, but I find it oddly amusing that Fellowship of the Ring lasted longer than Two Towers or Return of the King
At this stage, the veto list contains more of the movies I love than the current list.
I second the idea that people not be allowed to veto “everything X did”. If someone wants to people an entire body of work, I say make them work for it by typing everything out.
Veto:
Fargo
The Hunt for Red October
It’s a Wonderful Life
Last of the Mohicans
The Departed
The Shining
Add:
Grosse Pointe Blank
10 Things I Hate About You
Drop Dead Gorgeous
Scrooged
White Christmas
The Running Man
Veto: Old Boy
Pulp Fiction
Memento
Animal House
The Blues Brothers
@ Prankster: Somebody vetoed all things Pixar, hence Incredibles veto.
Veto Ruthless People, Billy’s Hollywood Screen Kiss, the Full Monty, and Knocked Up.
Add the Machine Girl, Payback (the 1999 one that was based on Westlake’s Parker the Thief novels), and Ravenous.
Kinda suprised not to see Smoking Aces or Lucky Number Sleven on either list. (unless I missed it among 87 comments)
Please, add both.
oh, and veto Drop Dead Gorgeous.
Tijmen: Oh, I love FIGHT CLUB. If it hadn’t been on the list several times over, I would have nominated it.
I know I lose serious geek cred for not liking DONNIE DARKO, though. Really, I’ve TRIED to watch it all the way through, more than once. “It’s not you, it’s ME.” But I gotta hold with my veto.
Technically — and the distinction is important! — I didn’t say EQUILIBRIUM was “thought-provoking”. I said it was an HOMAGE to works that were thought-provoking. “If This Brave New Fahrenheit 1984 Goes On … ” To heck with that: GUNKATA!
(And the “reel” comment was a direct response to the claim that movies like the Flynn Robin Hood were still on the list because nobody had seen them. It was in lieu of “rassin’ frassin’ kids git offa my lawn mutter mutter mutter ….” )
There’s about twenty or so films in both categories that I enjoy, so I won’t veto anything. But I would like to nominate the following 10 films;
The Mummy (w. Brendan Frasier)
The Nightmare Before Christmas
O Brother, Where art Thou?
Coraline
Stardust
My Neighbor Totoro
Cars
Tarzan (Disney)
Titan AE
1776
Veto Death to Smoochy like a thousand times. Add Nightmare Before Christmas.
Has ‘The adventures of Baron Munchausen’ really not been nominated? really? Or did I miss this somewhere?
well, count it as a vote to add then.
Also, veto on Stardust. ugh.
Grr, I step away for ten minutes and another one pops into my head.
Add: Muppet Treasure Island.
I’d like to propose that the movies originally vetoed because they fall under the “replace x with y as the ten on the list” mentality for a finite list could be added back in since the list ISN’T finite and can sustain all we want.
and most of those didn’t say they actually vetoed the one being replaced, just that ‘Y’ was better than ‘X’.
Whew!
Veto Muppet Christmas Carol, Alien and Aliens.
Veto: Juno, Empire Records
Add: The Iron Giant, The Silence of the Lambs, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Grosse Pointe Blank, Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
@Candlejack: Which cut for Payback? Theatrical or the later director’s cut that’s closer to the book? They’re almost different movies working on the same premise.
Add: Blake Edwards/Peter Seller’s “Pink Panther” movies! specifically “A Shot in the Dark”, “Return of the Pink Panther” and “The Pink Panther Strikes Again”. These are all magnificent comedies that Steve Martin’s version is only a pale shade of.
Also add:
Billy Wilder’s
–“The Front Page”
–“The Odd Couple”
–“Some Like It Hot”
Veto:
Big Lebowski
Yellowbeard (It’s far better in memory..I watched it just last night and boy did it not hold up)
Add:
Lion King
Aladin
The Three Musketeers/Four Musketeers (70’s)
Dinsey’s 3 Musketeers (90’s…Young Swords version)
Add: Flash Gordon (1980), A Mighty Wind, Waiting For Guffman, Spinal Tap, Iron Man 2, O Brother Where Art Thou, Ocean’s Eleven (2001), The Bourne Identity, High Fidelity
Veto: Kill Bill, Silence of the Lambs, Titan AE
Veto: The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938), Alien, Aliens, Animal House, Apocalypse Now, Army of Darkness, Before Sunrise, Before Sunset, Better Off Dead, The Big Lebowski, Billy’s Hollywood Screen Kiss, The Blues Brothers, Das Boot, Bringing Up Baby, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Chinatown, City Lights, A Clockwork Orange, Dawn of the Dead, Death to Smoochy, Doctor Strangelove, Donnie Darko, Empire Records, The Empire Strikes Back, Enter the Dragon, Fargo, Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, Fight Club, Forbidden Planet, The Full Monty, Ghostbusters, The Godfather, The Good the Bad and the Ugly, High Society, Highlander, The Hudsucker Proxy, Hunt for Red October, In Bruges, It’s a Wonderful Life, It’s My Party, Jaws, Juno, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, LA Confidential, Last Night, Last of the Mohicans, Latter Days, Little Miss Sunshine, Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, Lone Star, Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Rings, Memento, Metropolis, Miller’s Crossing, MirrorMask, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Moon, Muppet Christmas Carol, The Muppet Movie, Murder by Death, Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie, Night of the Living Dead, One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, Perseopolis, The Princess Bride, The Producers, The Professional, Pulp Fiction, The Quiet Earth, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Ransom, Rebecca, The Right Stuff, Ronin, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead, Rushmore, Ruthless People, The Shining, Silver Streak, Snatch, Sneakers, The Specials, Spider-Man 2, Star Trek (2009), Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, The Sting, The Terminator, Thank You For Smoking, The Thing, The Third Man, Throne of Blood, Time Bandits, Unforgiven, The Untouchables, Watership Down, Willow, The Wizard of Oz, Used Cars, The Valet, X-Men 2, Yellowbeard, Young Frankenstein and every movie on in this list mentioned above this comment
Add: Mega Shark Vs Giant Octopus
*every movie not on this list, rather.
Oh and reading the thread more carefully, it does look like many of the “vetoes” in the first dozen comments are actually people thinking they were limited to 10 choices and so were removing a movie in preference for another one rather than issuing a blanket veto. So that may be muddling your methodology here.
I am shocked, SHOCKED, at the lack of Die Hard on this list (specifically the first one; I love ’em all, but the first is probably the only one everyone can agree on).
Veto:
Illuyankas’s posts
*Failing that…
Veto:
Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus
I believe that leaves us with Die Hard.
For those of us who came in late*, what was the original list?
Anyway, I think you’re well on your way to proving** your theory. On the internet, sooner or later, you’ll find someone who hates that particular film.
The three films currently in the list I personally would veto have already been nominated for that. And, while I agree with a lot of the others, I know they’re controversial, or have points that some people hate.
So, I’m not going to veto or add anything. Rather, I’m going to have a guess at which films I think will avoid being vetoed for the longest time***.
Wizard of Oz.
Most of the Muppet movies.
The Empire Strikes Back.
The Princess Bride.
Ferris Bueller’s Day Off.
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.
Unforgiven.
Personally, I would have thought that Aliens would have been in that list, but it’s already managed to pick up some genuine vetoes.
* Now there’s a somewhat obscure nerd reference for ya.
** “Proving” in the scientific paper sense, where the actual conclusion is “Obviously, more research is needed at this time.”
*** Barring trolls and griefers like “Illuyankas”.
I’m not a troll*, I just really like Mega Shark Vs Giant Octopus. Also seconding the original list request.
* well, slightly, but only because I think this is really just a waste of time and not every troll will be as blatant as me.
Add Local Hero
Some pretty good films on the list….but here are mine:
1. The Wizard of Oz
2. It Happened One Night
3. North by Northwest
4. Stagecoach
5. The Iron Monkey
6. The Lion King
7. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
8. Murmur of the Heart
9. Star Wars
10. Do the Right Thing
veto Robin hood
veto Bringing Up Baby
veto Dawn of the Dead
veto The Full Monty
veto The Good the Bad and the Ugly
veto Highlander
veto It’s a Wonderful Life
veto Jaws
veto Miller’s Crossing
veto The Untouchables
Yeah, this is clearly a doomed exercise. I mean, if someone’s seriously vetoing “everything Pixar makes”…
Holy shit, the guy who vetoed Pixar voted for Hudson Hawk. I’m fairly sure we have an infestation of vampires or space parasites in this thread.
veto Stagecoach
please veto Donnie Darko, Please Add: Undercover Blues, Yellow Submarine, Short Circuit, Batteries Not Included, Tombstone, Pump Up The Volume, Audition Old Boy, Shao Lin Soccer American Psycho, American History X and Real Genius.
I love this idea. I’m going to watch some of the movies people have picked out that I’ve never seen to check them out.
Add
1. Curse of the Demon
2. Them (1954)
3. Ipcress File
4. Monster Squad
5. Desperado
6. Once Upon A Time In The West
7. Yojimbo
8. Seven Samurai
9. Casino Royale (2006)
10. Forbidden Planet
VETO: Death to Smoochy, Muppet Christmas Carol, Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie
ADD: Nick and Norah’s Infinite Playlist, Project X, Bulworth, Dave (1993), Grand Canyon, Strange Days
Veto High Society, Nick and Norah’s Infinite Playlist, I’d go on, but I’d be picking on you Fred.
Add Rio Bravo.
This exercise is doomed.The only way this will ever work is if one vote for cancels out one vote against; otherwise, one guy can remove the most popular film just because he alone feels like it.
But if you insist on doing it that way… veto DARK KNIGHT.(I’m not being snarky; I just think it really is overrated).
How about Bugsy Malone
or One, Two, Three
VETO: Before Sunrise AND Before Sunset.
Cool idea. Dunno how well it’ll work out though, but i hope it does.
Veto:
Snatch, Fargo.
Add:
Brick, The Matador, Ghost World, Howl’s Moving Castle.
On the already vetoed movies, i can’t believe so much Pixar’s been vetoed, and OMG THE FIRST JURASSIC PARK HOW CAN YOU DO THIS TO ME INTERNET!
veto Oldboy (And if we change to another system where a veto is undo-able, then I am willing to trade all of my vetoes and votes just to keep Oldboy off the list. And everybody elses vetoes.)
Veto The Princess Bride.
No, seriously.
Vetoing The Godfather and Fargo
Adding Pirate Radio and
veto Pirate Radio
veto Seven Samurai
Add: To Be or Not To Be (Mel Brooks version)
Into the Woods (Original Cast)
Phantom of the Opera (Lon Cheney)
La Belle et la Bete (1946 Cocteau)
Not many movies make it onto my “watch it anytime, in any mood” list, and it’s frustrating to see so many of those that are vetoed.
And I’ll admit, quite a few of my picks are old, and haven’t been heard of, much less seen, by most of today’s viewing audience.
Movies I either saw once and would never watch again or that I have seen one too many times, ergo veto:
The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938), Apocalypse Now, Before Sunrise, Before Sunset, The Big Lebowski, Billy’s Hollywood Screen Kiss, Das Boot, Bringing Up Baby, Chinatown, City Lights, A Clockwork Orange, Dawn of the Dead, Donnie Darko, The Empire Strikes Back, Enter the Dragon, Fargo, Forbidden Planet, The Full Monty, Ghostbusters, The Godfather, The Good the Bad and the Ugly, High Society, Highlander, The Hudsucker Proxy, Hunt for Red October, In Bruges, It’s My Party, Jaws, Last Night, Last of the Mohicans, Latter Days, Lone Star, Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Rings, Metropolis, Miller’s Crossing, MirrorMask, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Moon, Muppet Christmas Carol, The Muppet Movie, Murder by Death, Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie, Night of the Living Dead, One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, Perseopolis, The Quiet Earth, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Ransom, Rebecca, The Right Stuff, Ronin, Rushmore, Ruthless People, The Shining, Silver Streak, The Specials, The Thing, The Third Man, Throne of Blood, Time Bandits, The Untouchables, Watership Down, Willow, The Wizard of Oz, Used Cars, The Valet, Yellowbeard,
And what the heck…adding Chicago.
@Jonathan I vetoed all cartoons *except* for Incredibles and as far as I can tell no one vetoed everything Pixar unless they didn’t use the word Pixar in their comment. As far as I can tell Incredibles should still be up there.
And I didn’t mean to include Up, either so if I was the only person to veto it then I’d like to undo that.
I have to say, though. I’ve been reading through that list. Even if you add back in all the movies that have gotten a veto, you get a pretty damn good (and vaguely comprehensive) list of the most awesome films ever. Seriously, there’s quite a few there I’d forgotten I’d been meaning to see.
uberwookie vetoed ‘everything pixar ever did’ about twenty comments in.
And binning the first two Alien movies? Really?
Illuyankas, do you really think you’re in a position to be calling anyone else on their vetos?
Since my first comment was about as serious as a cupcake, a bit, but everyone’s entitled to their opinion.
Go do something useful like oppose Putin you commie prick.
I think I’ll post the current approved list instead, capitalist pigdog.
10 Things I Hate About You,
12 Monkeys,
1776,
A Shot In The Dark,
Adaptation,
The Adventures of Baron Munchausen,
American History X,
American Psycho,
Army of Darkness,
Arsenic and Old Lace,
Audition,
Batman Begins,
Batteries Not Included,
Being John Malkovich,
Better Off Dead,
Blue Velvet,
The Bourne Identity,
Brick,
Bubba Ho-Tep,
Bugsy Malone,
Bulworth,
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid,
Cabin Boy,
Casablanca,
Casino Royale (2006),
Chicago,
Close Encounters of the Third Kind,
Coraline,
The Court Jester,
Curse of the Demon,
Dave (1993),
The Descent,
Desperado,
Die Hard,
Dog Soldiers,
Equilibrium,
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind,
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas,
Ferris Bueller’s Day Off,
First Blood,
Flash Gordon,
The Fly (1986),
The Front Page,
Ghost World,
The Godfather Part II,
Goodfellas,
Grand Canyon,
Grosse Point Blank,
High Fidelity,
Howl’s Moving Castle,
Into The Woods (original cast),
Ipcress File,
The Iron Giant,
Iron Man 2,
Iron Monkey,
King Kong (original)
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang,
Kung Fu Hustle,
La Belle et la Belle (1946 Cocteau)
LA Confidential,
The Lion King,
Local Hero,
Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels,
Lucky Number Slevin,
The Machine Girl,
The Maltese Falcon,
The Matador,
A Mighty Wind,
The Mist,
Monster Squad,
The Mummy (Fraser version),
Muppet Treasure Island,
The Muppet Movie,
My Neighbour Totoro,
Notorious (Hitchcock),
The Nightmare Before Christmas,
O Brother, Where Art Thou?
Ocean’s Eleven (2001),
The Odd Couple,
Once Upon A Time In The West,
One, Two, Three,
Payback (1999),
The Phantom of the Opera (Lon Cheney),
The Pink Panther Strikes Again,
Planet of the Apes (original),
Predator,
Princess Monoke,
The Producers,
The Professional,
Project X,
Pump Up The Volume,
Ravenous,
Real Genius,
Return of the Pink Panther,
The Right Stuff,
Robocop,
The Rocketeer,
Rocky,
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead,
Rio Bravo,
The Running Man,
Scarface,
Scrooged,
Shaolin Soccer,
Short Circuit,
Slither,
Smoking Aces,
Sneakers,
Some Like It Hot,
Spirited Away,
Star Trek (2009),
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan,
Star Trek IV,
Strange Days,
Tarzan (Disney),
The Sting,
The Terminator,
Terminator 2,
Thank You For Smoking,
Theatre of Blood,
Them (1954),
To Be Or Not To Be (Mel Brooks version),
Total Recall,
Trading Places,
Undercover Blues,
Unforgiven,
Waiting For Guffman,
White Christmas,
Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
Vanishing Point,
Vertigo,
Videodrome,
Yellow Submarine,
Young Frankenstein
Mention if I’ve missed one or left a vetoed one in. Also I’m beginning to think ladypeyton is the devil.
For me it’s Fantomex.
Veto Star Trek 2009, Short Circuit, Real Genius, The Lion King, High Fidelity, Grand Canyon, Batteries Not Included.
Add Up In Smoke, Quick Change, All About Eve, Lawrence Of Arabia, Pale Rider, The In-Laws (original), and Annie Hall.
Though none of those will last, either.
I make it just a dozen movies left from John’s “current list” update posted above,
Sorry, I mean a baker’s dozen.
That’s not too good, is it?
Veto Twelve Monkeys, Batman Begins, Bubba Ho-Tep, Videodrome, Short Circuit, The Running Man, The Fly, The Bourne Identity, Return of the Pink Panther.
There would be others, but I’m not vetoing movies I haven’t seen, even if the reason I haven’t seen them is because everything I’ve heard about them has put me off bothering.
Off course if everyone followed the same criteria we’d just end up with a list of movies so obscure that nobody but the proposer had ever seen, so it’s perhaps not a perfect system.
Add Bride of Frankenstein, Heathers, Singin’ in the Rain, Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla, Millenium Actress, Bride and Prejudice, The Wizard of Speed and Time, Romeo & Juliet (Zeffirelli 1968).
The only way this will achieve consensus is if people start dying…
I don’t see how this can work. I hate most of the current yes list, like a lot of the deleted list. but OK, I won’t include the ones I haven’t seen, or will tolerate late at night but don’t really like anyway.
VETO: Animal House, Apocalypse Now, Better Off Dead, The Big Lebowski, Billy’s Hollywood Screen Kiss, City Lights, A Clockwork Orange, Death to Smoochy, It’s My Party, Jaws, Juno, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Latter Days, Little Miss Sunshine, Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, Lone Star, Memento, Moon, Pulp Fiction, The Quiet Earth, Ronin, Rushmore, Ruthless People, The Shining, Snatch, Sneakers, Throne of Blood, Used Cars,
ADD: Lawrence of Arabia, To Kill a Mockingbird, Secretary, Stardust
Add: Gremlins
Veto: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Scarface
Yellow Submarine
@Adam Ruining: Good point about Payback. Director’s Cut is the one I was thinking of.
Veto Chicago, Star Trek IV, and Annie Hall.
Add Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter (like that one will last!) and Blood & Donuts.
Veto Mirrormask.
Veto Ronin.
Veto One flew over the cuckoos nest.
Veto Army of Darkness.
Veto Batman Begins.
Veto The Descent.
Veto Payback.
Veto Brick.
Veto: Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, Fight Club, Last of the Mohicans, One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, Animal House.
Add: Galaxy Quest
Vetoing Juno and the 2009 Star Trek with extreme prejudice. Also, Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter, because holy crap all of the camp in the world can’t save that.
Adding: Twister, Shadow of the Vampire, and The Fearless Vampire Hunters.
@lidabet: Good add.
Veto death to smoochy!
Veto:
Star Trek IV, Being John Malkovich.
Add:
The Man who Fell to Earth, Memories, Before the Devil knows you’re Dead, The Royal Tennenbaums, Akira.
Also, i want everyone to know i take cupcakes *seriously*.
Add: Blackadder’s Christmas Carol, The Italian Job (1969), The Wicker Man, Rocky Horror Picture Show, The Man with Two Brains.
Veto: Star Trek (2009)
I have no idea what you mean, plok, but I’ll assume that you were giving me a compliment. Thanks!
Veto Italian Job (1969)
Veto Twister
Veto To Kill a Mockingbird
Spaceballs, anyone? Let’s add Spaceballs!
Am I the only one who just doesn’t have the heart to veto anything?
I would like to add High Fidelity, Dazed and Confused, American Psycho, 1776 and Cabaret.
Now enter the heathens who don’t like breaking the fourth wall and/or smugness, hazing, violence, and Liza Minelli.
I literally cannot imagine anyone disliking 1776.
Fantomex, you’re vetoing To Kill A Mockingbird? What, when it comes on TV you think “ehh, this fucking thing again, YAWN” or something?
Well, to each his own. But soon this list will all be things like “Wizard Of Space And Time”…
Sorry, that’s “Wizard Of Speed And Time”, obviously…
We should have a moment of silence when the last movie on John’s original list gets vetoed, don’tcha think?
I’m not sure that anyone, even on the internet, is soulless enough to veto Ghostbusters, plok.
Also, I should like to make special note and say that my use of “veto Ghostbusters” here is in no way an actual attempt to veto Ghostbusters. You won’t get me on technicality, soulless people.
veto The Big Lebowski, add The Fountain, Kung Fu Hustle, 28 weeks later, The Crow, and from Dusk till Dawn
I think an update on the original post is needed, so that people stop vetoing/adding already vetoed/added movies.
Half of the folks that post in this thing are still replying to the OP without going through the comments (not that i blame them), and at this point the list has changed quite a bit.
Its a nice exercise, i’d like to see it to the end.
@Plok – given the original parameters “just ten movies that I love, and that I could sit down and watch at any time and enjoy them”, I’m not sure how many people would include To Kill a Mockingbird. There are a number of great movies that I’d need to be in the right mood to watch.
Veto Spaceballs, The Man with Two Brains, and The Man Who Fell to Earth.
Add Kiki’s Delivery Service, A Night at the Opera.
@Marionette – John clarifies in the update that the list doesn’t have to stay at ten. In his words, “It can be as long as it needs to.”
Oh, and I’m attempting to make an updated list, but this thing is bloody unwieldy!
@Marionette It’s interesting, right? What are the hidden criteria behind “could sit down and enjoy at any time”? How high is that bar? For me it’s pretty low — there’s not a lot of movies I like that I’d have to be in the right mood to say “oh, awesome, “X” is on!”
Surely your “A Night At The Opera” will stick…how many moods does a person have to have, before most of them aren’t “right” for the Marx Brothers?
Add Dark Star, Gone With The Wind, Sixteen Candles, Without A Clue, Sleuth, and The World Of Henry Orient. There: all over the damn map.
Throw in Tanpopo, too, just for kicks.
Veto: Akira
Add Ghost Dog, Night on Earth, One Night Stand
Veto Dave
@Jonathan – What I was saying had nothing to do with the number.
@Plok – I’m not sure there’s much hidden in the criteria, but the “any time” factor is going to be a bit limiting on more challenging films. Not sure Night at the Opera will stick, given that The Princess Bride was kicked.
@Eh – which version of the Wicker Man? I love the original, in all its seventiesness, but I’d veto the remake like a shot.
Okay, how about I veto the remake and add the original, just to cover all bases?
@Marionette – My apologies. The wording of your post led me to believe that you were pointing out that To Kill a Mockingbird was unlikely to place in the top ten most likely to be agreed upon films. My interpretation of your message led to my own.
Also…
veto:
Gone With the Wind
Ghost Dog
Veto: Spirited Away
The Last Starfighter
Add: Tron
Superman
Superman II
Veto: Dark Star, Kiki’s Delivery Service, Tanpopo, Fight Club, Donnie Darko. (didn’t see these last two cut yet but may have missed)
Add: The Road Warrior, Koyaanisgatsi, The Big Sleep (1946), His Girl Friday, The Adventures of Baron Munchausen.
It would probably also help if I spelled Koyaanasqatsi right.
I give up.
You’ve gotta be joking me with “Koyaanisqatsi” not being a “really got to be in the mood for it” movie. It’s practically the definition of that.
Big veto.
Tell you what, I’ll just go ahead and nominate AND veto Warhol’s “Empire”, while we’re on this subject. No offense meant to Warhol fans.
Koyaanisqatsi, but im inclined to veto it on the grounds that while one of my favorite films, its not really for any occasion.
Add Howl’s Moving Castle.
Veto Perfume: The Story of a Murderer. That movie was such a colossal turd I had to air out my apartment after my roommate watched it.
Howl’s Moving Castle’s already been and gone!
Oh, and veto Gremlins.
+ Lawrence of Arabia
+ Dr. Zhivago
+ Akira
+ Tampopo
+ Casablanca
+ Zulu
+ Dirty Harry
+ Bird
– Rushmore
– Empire Records
Add Equilibrium,Godzilla/Gojira
Veto Juno, X-Men 2
Veto:
Smokin’ Aces
Add:
A Fistful of Dollars
For a Few Dollars More
Hard Target
Jackie Brown
Dr. No
Dark City
@plok: It was my understanding that we were just supposed to add/veto things, not get into discussions about the merits of a particular film, but since you asked:
No, I vetoed “To Kill a Mockingbird” because other than Gregory Peck’s performance, I am unable to find anything good about that film. I don’t find heavy handed stories about racism with a protagonist I don’t care about and terrible pacing worth watching.
If I had the attitude that you suggest, then I would have vetoed Lawrence of Arabia, but I didn’t, because it is actually good.
Veto:
Superman
Superman II
Godzilla/Gojira
Vetoing:
Equilibrium
The Nightmare Before Christmas
My Neighbor Totoro
Close Encounters of the First Kind
Aladin
Flash Gordon
Ghost World
Cabin Boy
Add:
The Day the Earth Stood Still (the original)
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
man, this is pointless. Time to get all Godel on this.
Veto: everything that’s not on the list.
Veto:
Billy’s Hollywood Screen Kiss
Latter Days,
Add Flight of the Navigator.
(sets timer)
Fantomex, don’t think I’m mad! I didn’t mean to suggest you had a bad attitude, even though I did jokingly suggest you were the devil (it was the “Veto Stagecoach” thing that got me). And just to be clear, it was my understanding also that no one had to justify their vetoes, but I just hadda ask…to the air, if no one else!…about TKAM. I mean if someone really wanted to know why I vetoed/added what I vetoed/added, I’m totally prepared to come across with the goods…but didn’t necessarily expect you to answer me, so thanks for explaining anyway.
It’s a pretty good explanation. Obviously what I was curious about was how a person could turn down watching Gregory Peck be Atticus Finch, a thing I’d do any day of the week, and that you said it was everything other than Gregory Peck…well, I disagree obviously (esp. about the pacing!), but I gotta confess that if I had to see it without Gregory Peck being in it, yeah, I might not be so automatically interested. So, you can separate that stuff out, and I can’t…but to each his own, I say.
And hey! Didn’t mean to say I thought you actually were the devil, you know? Apologies if I offended.
And to anybody else out there: we don’t have to give our reasons…but do you think we could keep from spitting venom at one another if we did give our reasons?
I mean if we can’t reach a consensus, maybe a conversation.
However maybe that’s the scotch talking.
Was going to veto Juno, but I did a ctrl+f and found that I was beaten to the punch. Multiple times.
Also, just being generically pessimistic, but after a cursory glance through the comments I don’t think any kind of unanimous vote is possible. At best, you’ll get movies that some people like and no one else cares about enough to veto.
I mean, someone vetoed WALL-E.
NOMINATE:
Oldboy
Return to Oz
Seven Samurai
A New Hope
NIX:
A Clockwork Orange
Little Miss Sunshine
Ronin
Spider-Man 2
X-Men 2
You’ll be happy to know that all your Nixes have been thoroughly nixed already.
Of your nominations: “Return To Oz” survives.
I am liking this too much.
VETO:
Robocop
Goodfellas
Bulworth
Scrooged
American Psycho
Royal Tennenbaums
ADD:
Godzilla: Final Wars
Gamera The Defender of the Universe
Spider-Man
Buckaroo Banzai: Across the 8th Dimension
Watchmen
ADD:
The Heroic Trio
More vetoes.
VETO:
First Blood
Godfather II
Tarzan (Disney)
Total Recall
You said that because of Stagecoach? Seriously? I don’t mean this in a condescending way, don’t misunderstand me, but have you seen it recently? I know people have this idea of it being this great film, but it simply doesn’t hold up. At. All.
Sure, the dolly-in to Ringo’s face while he does the Terminator one-handed cocking trick is cool, but aside from him and (arguably) Dallas, the other characters are one-note caricatures who have neither good writing nor charismatic performances to bring them above the level of groan-inducing.
Don’t worry, I wasn’t offended. 🙂 And I’m all for conversation, since a consensus (at least, of the nature proposed in the post) is obviously going to be impossible.
Veto:
Godzilla: Final Wars
Gamera The Defender of the Universe
Watchmen
You made baby Godzilla cry.
Hey man, people vetoed The Princess Bride, one of the most likable movies ever. Baby Godzilla is small potatoes compared to that.
@Fantomex: I’m glad you know Stagecoach as well as I do! And have reasons for disapproving of it, which make sense. Of course I think character’s overrated…
Hey, try these on, these are Official Submissions:
ADD: “The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance”.
ADD: “Three Days Of The Condor”
ADD: “The Bishop’s Wife” (original)
ADD: “The Taking Of Pelham 123” (original)
ADD: “Grand Theft Auto”
WHAT?!
I am not going to bother vetoing every Tom, Dick, and Harry. Would like to know, however, what Fantomex makes of my last submissions. Not requiring you to veto, dude. Just asking what you think. Although veto away if you think that’d be good.
I guess what I’m doing is (I hope politely) asking you to evaluate those ones out loud. Of course if you’d rather not, that’d be okay too. Approve, veto, whatever. But I’m curious about your decision-making process.
Sorry, now that really IS the scotch.
Veto Watchmen.
Veto The Adventures of Baron Munchausen.
Please add:
Logan’s Run,
Serenity &
Dune
I think my point above has been amply demonstrated.
But I’d still like to see the original list of 10…
(Also, Add: BAMBI VS. GODZILLA!)
@plok: Sorry, other than The Bishop’s Wife I haven’t seen those. I saw The Bishop’s Wife when I was a little kid, so my tastes weren’t really developed enough to form an opinion of any more sophistication than “Cary Grant has a weird voice”.
Add:
The Dirty Dozen
Seven Samurai
Yojimbo
The Wages Of Fear
Goldfinger
Rio Bravo
El Dorado (the John Wayne movie, not the animated film)
The Stunt Man
Deathrace 2000
Veto:
Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie (I love the show but the movie was a misfire as it tried to poke fun at THIS ISLAND EARTH which while admittedly not a great film is certainly one of the better sci-fi films of the 1950s)
May I veto the “that I could sit down and watch at any time and enjoy them” criterion? To me, that has very little at all to do with “awesome.” When 50 First Dates shows up on teevee, I stop changing channels, because it requires absolutely* no effort to watch. I can watch it while playing WoW; I can watch it while cooking dinner; if I had it on my iPod I could listen to it in the car and still enjoy it. But it’s not awesome. Metropolis, on the other hand, is definitely awesome, but there’s absolutely no point to watching it unless I can give it my undivided attention. Why does a movie become somehow less “awesome” because it commands my undivided attention? I honestly can’t reconcile “films that I love” with “could watch at any time.”
At any rate, here’s my veto fodder, based solely on the “is it awesome” criterion:
ADD:
Brotherhood of the Wolf
Metropolis (2001)
Baxter (1989)
The Seventh Seal
Primer
The Fall
* – that’s a lie, I do have to pay attention for 10 seconds so I get to see the penguin covered in whipped cream.
@ Chris – I think we moved into the “It is awesome” territory a looong time ago unless there are people who, while flipping through the channels, will automatically say, “Hey, Schindler’s List is on again! Awesome, I’ve gotta watch this for the dozenth time!”
@ Thornae – The original list has been gone so long that it doesn’t matter anymore. The list at the top of the page is over 140 comments behind the current list.
That said, I think the original list was:
Toy Story 2
Iron Man
Evil Dead 2
Star Wars
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Clue
Big Trouble in Little China
Shaun of the Dead
Ghostbusters
I forget the last one.
I totally cannot believe that Strange Days has not been vetoed by somebody yet. Once again, please not that I am not vetoing Strange Days, Internet.
@Jonathan: I think that what we’re finding more than anything is that there are particular categories of film that a (film literate) person will automatically sit down and watch. There are some things that we will sit down and watch because they are awesome or are a personal favorite (Ghostbusters, Empire Strikes Back, Raiders of the Lost Ark) but there are also films that we can sit and watch absently because of the sheer artistry on display. I kidded the crowd not when I suggested Blade Runner, Koyannisqatsi, and several others. These are are films that don’t have to be watched for the story or the explosions or the tits, they are so artfully made and full of such lush imagery and fine design that the right kind of viewer can just soak in them. I know that plenty of “general audience” viewers find Blade Runner to be one of the most tedious films ever made, but I stand by on old assertion that I could just sit and stare at it for hours on end, and I doubt that I’m alone here.
Note: The above is not a dig at anyone posting or reading. I understand that film is purely subjective and we are all entitled to our opinions. However, since the whole point of this exercise is to achieve consensus, I think is is also important to try and determine and comprehend where everyone is coming from with their posts.
@Marionette
I meant the original Wicker Man, sorry for not being specific.
Veto Logan’s Run.
I think at this point, we’ve found there can be no true consensus, but there might possibly exist a list of movies so obscure nobody else has heard of them, or so niche that everybody who’s heard of them is required to (at least pretend to) like them.
Yet I’m still having fun.
What boggles my mind is guy who came in, called it a waste of time, and said veto everything. Yeah, it’s a waste of time, but it’s a waste of our time, so what’s it to ya?
plox: “Of your nominations: “Return To Oz” survives.”
Oh man, it’ll be hilarious if that one actually goes through. I mean, the movie’s absolutely fantastic, but it’s fantastic as a /horror/ movie and generally hated as a sequel to The Wizard of Oz (by anyone who hasn’t read the books, which are entirely creepy enough already at times). I’m not sure if anyone else likes that movie nearly as much as I do, I expected that to be my most contentious choice.
@Jonathan: Well, and that’s illustrative of the problem with trying to build consensus in this way. Check out the discussion of Koyaanisqatsi last night – two people suggest vetoing it because it’s not for any occasion. So if “we” have moved into a realm of “is it awesome” but one person is still hanging around vetoing movies that are awesome part of the time, that criterion is still relevant.
Add Waking Ned Devine (And if you haven’t seen it,
Hmm, some that I love that have not shown up yet:
Grosse Pointe Blank
Strictly Ballroom
My Favorite Year
Mystery Men
Others that are here and I love:
Princess Mononoke
Spirited Away
Dark City
Terminator 2
Lawrence of Arabia
Veto: Mystery Men
Metropolis (2001)
Man, Gremlins shot down? Man.
veto: Tarzan
correction: it’s spelled Persepolis (pedantic guy on the internet!)
veto Ronin, the Producers, the life of whoever vetoed Zombieland.
veto:
Return to Oz
Based on the Update List in the main post:
Veto
Death to Smoochy, Fargo, LA Confidential, Ransom, Snatch, Spiderman 2, X-Men 2
Add
Master & Commander: the Far Side of the World
Inglourious Basterds
The Dark Knight
Chicken Run
Oh, also, have we vetoed ALL versions of Blade Runner, or can I still add the 1992 Director’s Cut? 🙂
@ Mister Arkham & Chris – My point was poorly made, but I was essentially suggesting that the average viewer will be unlikely to agree with the idea that some of the more artistic or emotionally involving films are “watch any time films.” I would suggest that, barring a small minority (I may be wrong about it being a minority, but the success of Avatar and Transformers 2 suggests otherwise), most viewers are incapable of (or unwilling to) watch films based on sheer artistry on multiple occasions. I haven’t seen Koyaanisqatsi, so I can’t speak to that, but I know that I am not emotionally capable of watching Schindler’s List on any and every occasion, regardless of how brilliant I think the film stands as an artistic statement. In essence, I think that vetoing the “that I could sit down and watch at any time and enjoy them” criteria changes the nature of the list. At that point, it simply becomes (has become?) a list of what everyone thinks are the best films ever made.
I believe that the failure to take into account the kind of list being generated is why there have been so many people being actively annoyed when they see a favorite vetoed. Hence, perhaps 50 First Dates fits, and Koyaanisqatsi does not. One of these is more likely to have more people say, “Yeah, I could watch that any time,” regardless of internal film merit. The list isn’t about merit; it’s about watchability.
Thus, my statement, that we’ve moved into “It is awesome” territory, was intended to indicate that we, as a collective, have long since moved away from the stated purpose of the list.
This comment is way too long, and I have nothing to veto.
Do I get a prize for having the longest surviving
movie?
Vetoing Ingloirious Basterds, and not because the spelling makes me cringe, either.
@Jonathan: I think I see your point, or can at least accept it. My previous statement regarding films such as Blade Runner and the ‘qatsi films is derived more from the standpoint that they are films that a viewer can lose himself in on the merit of the visuals alone, without the film ever becoming offensive to his sensibilities like a Transformers 2. Ultimately though, this is not a fashion in which many people are comfortable watching films, and perhaps this is a criteria better suited to another list.
That said, I have to wonder how much of this list does still meet the base criteria that you provided us with: “…movies that I love, and that I could sit down and watch at any time and enjoy them.” From this, I take your meaning to be that these are to be films that we can sit down and give our undivided attention too over and over while always being entertained by them. While I’m proud to say that most of the ideas that I have submitted do fall into this camp for me, I would be lying if I said that all of them did. With that in mind, I have to wonder how true this is of everyone, or if I am now misinterpreting the spirit of the exercise.
That said, I think that in the end, all that we’ll ever really be able to agree on is that Ghostbusters kicks absolute ass.
@solid snake: Not while Ghostbusters and my Empire Strikes Back still survive.
@ Mister Arkham – As a collective, I doubt we’ll even be able to agree on that. Someone somewhere was undoubtedly broken up with immediately before or after watching Ghostbusters. That individual will likely find his/her way to this forum to veto the film (which I am in no way doing!!) because it reminds him/her of that traumatic event.
…or not I suppose.
@ Mister Arkham – Does that mean we’re ignoring both Illuyankas and LadyPeyton? Both vetoed both films.
Veto
A Clockwork Orange (bored me, couldn’t finish it)
Persepolis (good once, but not something “that I could sit down and watch at any time and enjoy them”, no repeat-viewing-power)
The Third Man (for reasons of both above. Other than the nicely shot “reveal scene” where Lime shows up alive and the cookoo clock speech, nothing to re-watch, and getting thru it the first time was largely due to “I’ve heard this is really good” and inertia than anything really interesting me)
Add
The Incredibles (oh, already vetoed. Are you guys Insane! sigh Nuts.)
Terminator 2
Illunyankas admitted his post vetoing everything was a joke, so it ought to be disregarded. ladypeyton, on the other hand, honestly vetoed everything she wouldn’t want to see again. It was a long list, but it still should stand.
Of course, I’m also in the minority that thinks vetoing whole classes of stuff is okay. I haven’t blanket-vetoed everything with Nicholas Cage, but I probably will veto any individual movie of his that I see added.
Veto Chicken Run and Strictly Ballroom.
@Jonathan: Oh, crap! Was only looking at the lists in the main post. I could say something about being of the opinion that certain people who have posted are without souls and hateful toward fun, but I’m not gonna do that.
I don’t like the idea of vetoing whole classes of movies. At the very least it implies that you are damning films you have not watched.
Veto The Dark Knight.
Add Mama Mia
But I’m a Cheerleader!
Rock and Rule
Sukeban Deka: Counter Attack of the Kazama Sisters
I agree with the anti-class vetoing thing, but I can’t really stop anyone.
Add:
Densha Otoko (Marionette just reminded me indirectly)
The Wedding Singer
Add:
The Neverending Story
Sanjuro
Add:
Children of Heaven, Transformers (1986), Les Triplettes de Belleville, The Tune.
Veto:
Machine Girl.
Veto:
Master & Commander: the Far Side of the World
Les Triplettes de Belleville
Maybe this would have worked better as a Wiki list.
Melody. I can’t believe I forgot to mention Melody.
(Known as Melody Fair in some countries, or SWALK in the UK.)
Ok. I’m going to list the movies I’ve already seen a bunch of times but could totally stand to watch again.
ADD
School of Rock
Superbad
101 Dalmatians
Little Women (I know someone will veto that one) (1994)
Veto: Mama Mia.
I enjoyed it somewhat but wouldn’t want to see it again, and I loath “Dancing Queen” with the firey burning hatred of a thousand flaming suns. The rest of ABBA is fine, even enjoyable, but any movie which contains that song will get an instaban from me. I fastforwarded that scene. The rest of the movie was one of the better romantic comedies I’ve seen, but I don’t think I could sit through it again, and I certainly wouldn’t call it “awesome”.
Veto Juno (It just felt so fake to me)
Veto Willow (Val Kilmer as HAN SOLO NOT-IN-SPAAAAAACE)
Also, as someone just suggested adding Superbad, I will go right ahead and say
VETO SUPERBAD (for the love of taste)
Veto Waking Ned Devine….(sorry, I’m Irish)
“Veto Juno (It just felt so fake to me)”
Yes, welcome to the rest of the internet 😛
Add: Office Space.
And seriously, i’ve become way too addicted to this.
I was wondering: If this is about movies we love and can watch any time, aren’t movies any of us haven’t seen (and therefore cannot yet remember so fondly) by definition automatically eliminated? That could severely pare this down right off, at least for me.
@Gloria – It all gets a bit Shroedinger’s cat there. A movie that you have not seen is one that contains the potential of all possible reactions.
Until you collapse that potential by actually watching it, you not only love it to pieces and hate it with a passion, but are also entirely indifferent to it, and all responses inbetween.
Therefore any movie you have not seen is, by definition, a movie you think is awesome, so it would be dishonest of you to veto it.
Oh, and veto 101 Dalmations
Add Imagine Me and You
I did my best to look through the comments and only add or veto ones that haven’t been covered already, but I am just a man, so please forgive any mistakes. Also, I don’t give a shit about “watch any time.” I’m just listing movies I like or don’t like.
@Gloria: Interesting proposition, but then a single ignoramus could wipe out everything. I think every movie on the list should have to get TWO votes to be added or subtracted (a lot of them did anyway). But whatevs, too late to change the rules.
Veto But I’m a Cheerleader, Rock and Rule, Deathrace 2000, Dune, Buckaroo Banzai: Across the 8th Dimension, Tron, Superman II, Rocky Horror Picture Show, Fearless Vampire Hunters, Heathers, Total Recall, Chicago, Thank You For Smoking, First Blood, Point Blank, Robocop, The Crow, The Mist, Slither, Equilibrium, Arsenic and Old Lace, Blue Velvet, Kill Bill, 10 Things I Hate About You, Scrooged, Smoking Aces, The Mummy, Muppet Treasure Island, Cars, The Pink Panther Strikes Again, Disney’s 3 Muskateers, Flash Gordon, Iron Man 2, The Wrath of Khan, Tombstone, Audition, American History X, Them, Monster Squad, Bugsy Malone.
I nominate Ran, The Prestige, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Men in Black, Rear Window, Rope, Fannie and Alexander, Raising Arizona, Heat, There Will Be Blood, Amadeus, Big Fish, Ghandi, Eyes Wide Shut, Full Metal Jacket, Good Will Hunting, The Elephant Man, Mulholland Dr., Casino, Mystic River, Pink Floyd The Wall, Pirates of the Caribbean, Predator, Reservoir Dogs, Jackie Brown, Requiem for a Dream, Pi, Run Lola Run, Saving Private Ryan, Minority Report, Catch Me if You Can, ET, Sixth Sense, Superman, Trainspotting, Slumdog Millionaire, Ed Wood
Veto Good Will Hunting and The Wall.
And, as promised: veto Raising Arizona.
Veto:
Heat
Eyes Wide Shut
Full Metal Jacket
Casino
Pirates of the Caribbean
Reservoir Dogs
Minority Report
Catch Me if You Can
ET
Superman
Veto:
Pi, Fannie and Alexander, Requiem for a Dream, Saving Private Ryan, Sixth Sense, Trainspotting, Slumdog Millionaire, Mystic River, Men in Black.
Hey I’m ten years late now, but my initial post didn’t really follow the outlines so … sorry for that.
So if I’m the only on that vetoed Star Wars and Iron Man, can they be un-vetoed so I don’t get lynched by a bunch of War Machines and Nerf Herders.
Evil Dead II can stay vetoed 😛
Veto the Wedding Singer and Transformers (1986).
Add Split Second (1992).
Veto Split Second (1992)
Add:
The Big Crime Wave (John Paisz)
waydowntown
Kitchen Party
Top of the Food Chain
Kung Fu Hustle
Did you realize Dumb and Dumber was still in it? I didn’t. Veto that.
Updated List:
Adaptation, All About Eve, Amadeus,
Back to the Future Part 2, Bambi Vs Godzilla, Baxter (1989), Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead, La Belle et la Bete (1946 Cocteau), The Big Crime Wave (John Paisz), Big Fish, The Big Sleep (1946), Bird, The Bishop’s Wife (original), Blackadder’s Christmas Carol, Blood & Donuts, Bride and Prejudice, Bride of Frankenstein, Brotherhood of the Wolf, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid,
Cabaret, Casablanca, Casino Royale (2006), Children of Heaven, Coraline, The Court Jester, Curse of the Demon,
Dark City, The Day the Earth Stood Still (original), Dazed and Confused, Densha Otoko, Desperado, Die Hard, The Dirty Dozen, Dirty Harry, Dr. No, Dr. Zhivago, Dog Soldiers, Do the Right Thing,
Ed Wood, El Dorado (John Wayne), The Elephant Man, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind,
The Fall, A Fistful of Dollars, Flight of the Navigator, For a Few Dollars More, The Fountain, From Dusk Til Dawn, The Front Page, The Fugitive,
Galaxy Quest, Ghandi, Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla, Goldfinger, Grand Theft Auto, Grosse Point Blank,
Hard Target, The Heroic Trio, His Girl Friday, Howl’s Moving Castle,
Imagine Me and You, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Into the Woods (original cast), The In-Laws (original), Ipcress File, The Iron Giant, Iron Monkey, It Happened One Night,
Jackie Brown,
King Kong (original), Kitchen Party, Kung Fu Hustle,
Lawrence of Arabia, Little Women (1994), Local Hero, Lucky Number Sleven,
The Maltese Falcon, The Man Who Shot Liberty Vance, The Matador, Melody (Melody Fair/SWALK) Memories, A Mighty Wind, Millenium Actress, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Mulholland Drive, Murmur of the Heart, My Favorite Year,
The Neverending Story, A Night at the Opera, Night on Earth, North by Northwest, Notorious (Hitchcock),
O Brother, Where Art Thou?, The Odd Couple, Ocean’s Eleven (2001), Office Space, Once Upon a Time in the West, One Night Stand, One Two Three,
Pale Rider, The Phantom of the Opera (Lon Chaney), Planet of the Apes, Predator, The Prestige, Primer, Princess Monoloke, The Professional, Project X, Pump Up the Volume,
Quick Change,
Ran, Ravenous, Rear Window, Rio Bravo, The Road Warrior, The Rocketeer, Rocky, Romeo & Juliet (Zeffirelli 1868), Rope, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead, Run Lola Run,
Sanjuro, School of Rock, Secretary, Seven, 1776, The Seventh Seal, Shaolin Soccer, Shadow of the Vampire, A Shot in the Dark (Pink Panther), Singin’ in the Rain, Sixteen Candles, Sleuth, Some Like It Hot, Spider-Man, Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, The Sting, Strange Days, The Stunt Man, Sukeban Deka: Counter Attack of the Kazama Sisters,
The Taking of Pelham 123 (original), The Terminator, Terminator 2: Judgement Day, Theater of Blood, There Will Be Blood, Three Days of the Condor, The Three Musketeers/Four Musketeers (70s), To Be or Not To Be (Mel Brooks), Top of the Food Chain, Trading Places (1983), The Tune, 28 Weeks Later,
Undercover Blues, Unforgiven, Up in Smoke,
Vanishing Point, Vertigo,
The Wages of Fear, Waiting for Guffman, waydowntown, White Christmas, Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, The Wicker Man (original), Without a Clue, The Wizard of Speed and Time, The World of Henry Orient,
Yojimbo, Young Frankenstein,
Zulu
Updated Veto List:
The Adventures of Baron Munchausen, The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938), Airplane, Akira, Aladdin, Alien, Aliens, Amelie, American History X, American Psycho, Animal House, Annie Hall, Apocalypse Now, Army of Darkness, Arsenic and Old Lace, Audition, Avatar,
Back to the Future, Batman Begins, Batteries Not Included, Before Sunrise, Before Sunset, Being John Malkovich, Better Off Dead, The Big Lebowski, Big Trouble in Little China, Billy’s Hollywood Screen Kiss, Das Boot, The Bourne Identity, Blade Runner, Blazing Saddles, The Blues Brothers, Blue Velvet, Brazil, Breakfast at Tiffany’s, Brick, Bringing Up Baby, Bubba Ho-Tep, Buckaroo Banzai: Across the 8th Dimension, A Bug’s Life, Bugsy Malone, Bulworth, But I’m a Cheerleader!,
Cabin Boy, Caddyshack, Cars, Casino, Catch Me if You Can, Chasing Amy, Chicago, Chicken Run, Clerks, Children of Men, Chinatown, City Lights, A Clockwork Orange, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Clue, Contact, Cowboy Bebop, The Crow,
Dangerous Liasons, The Dark Crystal, The Dark Knight, Dark Star, Dawn of the Dead, Dave (1993), Death Race 2000, Death to Smoochy, The Departed, The Descent, Doctor Strangelove, Dogma, Donnie Darko, Drop Dead Gorgeous, Drunken Master 2, Dumb and Dumber, Dune,
Empire, Empire Records, The Empire Strikes Back, Enter the Dragon, Equilibrium, ET, Eyes Wide Shut, Evil Dead II,
Fannie and Alexander, Fargo, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, The Fearless Vampire Hunters, Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, The Fifth Element, Fight Club, Finding Nemo, First Blood, (500) Days of Summer, Flash Gordon (1980), The Fly (1986), Forbidden Planet, Full Metal Jacket, The Full Monty,
Gamera the Defender of the Universe, Ghostbusters, Ghost Dog, Ghost World, The Godfather, The Godfather Part II, Godzilla/Gojira, Godzilla: Final Wars, Goodfellas, The Good the Bad and the Ugly, Good Will Hunting, The Goonies, Gone with the Wind, Grand Canyon, Gremlins, Groundhog Day,
Happy Gilmore, Heat, Heathers, High Fidelity, Highlander, High Society, Hot Fuzz, Hudson Hawk, The Hudsucker Proxy, Hunt for Red October,
In Bruges, The Incredibles, Inglourious Basterds, Iron Man, Iron Man 2, The Italian Job (1969), It’s a Wonderful Life, It’s My Party,
Jaws, Jacob’s Ladder, The Jerk, Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter, Juno, Jurassic Park,
Kiki’s Delivery Service, Kill Bill, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Koyaanisqatsi, Knocked Up,
Labyrinth, LA Confidential, Last Night, Last of the Mohicans, The Last Starfighter, Latter Days, The Lion King, Little Miss Sunshine, Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, Logan’s Run, Lone Star, Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Rings, Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, Love Actually,
The Machine Girl, Mallrats, Mama Mia, The Man Who Fell to Earth, The Man with Two Brains, Master & Commander: the Far Side of the World, The Matrix, Mega Shark Vs Giant Octopus, Memento, Men in Black, Metropolis, Metropolis (2001), Miller’s Crossing, Minority Report, MirrorMask, The Mist, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, Monsters Inc., Monster Squad, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Moon, The Mummy (Brendan Frasier), Muppet Christmas Carol, The Muppet Movie, Muppet Treasure Island, Murder by Death, My Neighbor Totoro, Mystery Men, Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie, Mystic River,
Nick and Norah’s Infinite Playlist, The Nightmare Before Christmas, Night of the Living Dead,
Old Boy, One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, 101 Dalmations,
Pan’s Labyrinth, The Patriot, Payback (1999), Pee Wee’s Big Adventure, Perfume: the Story of a Murderer, Persepolis, The Philadelphia Story, Pi, Pink Floyd: the Wall, The Pink Panther Strikes Again, Pirate Radio, Pirates of the Caribbean, Point Blank, Police Story 3, The Princess Bride, The Producers, Pulp Fiction,
The Quiet Earth,
Raiders of the Lost Ark, Raising Arizona, Ransom, Ratatouille, Real Genius, Rebecca, Repo Man, Requiem for a Dream, Reservoir Dogs, Return of the Pink Panther, Return to Oz, The Right Stuff, Robocop, Rock and Rule, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, Ronin, The Royal Tennenbaums, The Running Man, Rushmore, Ruthless People,
Saving Private Ryan, Scarface, Schindler’s List, Scrooged, Serenity, Seven Samurai, Sexy Beast, Shaun of the Dead, The Shawshank Redemption, The Shining, Short Circuit, Shrek, The Silence of the Lambs, Silverado, Silver Streak, Sin City, Sixth Sense, Slither, Slumdog Millionaire, Smoking Aces, Snatch, Sneakers, Spaceballs, The Specials, Spider-Man 2, Spirited Away, Split Second (1992), Stagecoach, Stardust, Star Wars, Stargate, Starsky and Hutch, Star Trek (2009), Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Star Trek IV, Strictly Ballroom, Superbad, Superman, Superman II,
Tanpopo, Tarzan (Disney), Tenacious D: The Pick of Destiny, 10 Things I Hate About You, Thank You For Smoking, Them (1954), The Thing, The Third Man, The 13th Warrior, 30 Days of Night, This Is Spinal Tap, The Three Musketeers (Disney, 90s), Throne of Blood, Time Bandits, Titan AE, To Kill a Mockingbird, Tombstone, Tommy Boy, Total Recall (1990), Toy Story, Toy Story 2, Trainspotting, Transformers: the Movie (1986), Les Triplettes de Belleville, Tron, 12 Monkeys, 28 Days Later, Twister, 2001: A Space Odyssey,
Unbreakable, The Untouchables, Up, Used Cars, The Usual Suspects,
The Valet, Videodrome,
Waking Ned Devine, WALL-E, Watchmen, Watership Down, The Wedding Singer, When Harry Met Sally, Willow, The Wizard of Oz,
X-Men 2,
Yellowbeard, Yellow Submarine,
Zombieland, Zoolander
Veto: Secretary
Veto: Juno
Add: You and me and everyone we know
Wow Candlejack, thanks a lot.
Much appreciated Candlejack!
Veto:
Adaptation, Bride & Prejudice, Bride of Frankenstein, Mulholland Drive, Star Trek VI, Terminator 2 Judgment Day
Add:
A Better Tomorrow, A Better Tomorrow II, Big Night, Hard-Boiled, South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut, Speed, Wings of Desire
“He’d come and veto a film or two, that’s what Brian Boitano’d do!”
Veto Back to the Future part 2, The Big Sleep, A Better Tomorrow, Flight of the Navigator, His Girl Friday, Hard-Boiled, Memories, Pale Rider, South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut, Speed, The Road Warrior, 28 Weeks Later.
Add Kind Hearts and Coronets, Bring It On, Saviour of the Soul.
Veto:
Sixteen Candles
There will be Blood
Bring it On
Shadow of the Vampie
I’m not gonna lie, updating was a pain in the ass. No wonder Seavey hasn’t been back to do it! But it’s nice to know where we stand now, isn’t it?
Add Bound.
Veto Do the Right Thing.
Thanks Candlejack! Unfortunately, common decency necessitated I make some improvements:
VETO:
All About Eve
Amadeus
Bambi VS Godzilla
Baxter (1989)
Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead
La Belle et la Bete (1946 Cocteau)
The Big Crime Wave (John Paisz)
Big Fish
Big Night
Bird
The Bishop’s Wife (original)
Blood & Donuts
Bound
Brotherhood of the Wolf
Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid
Cabaret
Casablanca
Casino Royale (2006)
Coraline
The Court Jester
Curse of the Demon
The Day the Earth Stood Still (original)
Dazed & Confused
Densha Otoko
The Dirty Dozen
Dr. Zhivago
Dog Soldiers
El Dorado (John Wayne)
The Elephant Man
The Fall
Flight of the Navigator
The Front Page
Ghandi
Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla
Goldfinger
Grand Theft Auto
Grosse Point Blank
Hard Target
Imagine Me and You
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Into the Woods (original cast)
The In-Laws (original)
It Happened One Night
Kind Hearts & Coronets
King Kong (original)
Kitchen Party
Lawrence of Arabia
Little Women (1994)
Local Hero
Lucky Number Sleven
The Maltese Falcon
The Man Who Shot Liberty Vance
The Matador
Melody (Melody Fair/SWALK)
A Mighty Wind
Millenium Actress
Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
Murmur of the Heart
My Favorite Year
The Neverending Story
A Night at the Opera
Night on Earth
Notorious (Hitchcock)
The Odd Couple
Ocean’s Eleven (2001)
Office Space
Once Upon a Time in the West
One Night Stand
One Two Three
The Phantom of the Opera (Lon Chaney)
Predator
The Prestige
Project X
Pump Up the Volume
Quick Change
Ravenous
Rio Bravo
Rocky
Romeo & Juliet (Zeffirelli 1868)
Rope
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead,
Saviour of the Soul
School of Rock
1776
The Seventh Seal
A Shot in the Dark (Pink Panther)
Singin’ in the Rain
Sleuth
Some Like It Hot
Spider-Man
The Sting
Strange Days
The Stunt Man
Sukeban Deka: Counter Attack of the Kazama Sisters
The Terminator
Theater of Blood
Three Days of the Condor
The Three Musketeers/Four Musketeers (70s)
To Be or Not To Be (Mel Brooks)
Top of the Food Chain
The Tune
Undercover Blues
Unforgiven
Up in Smoke
Vanishing Point
Vertigo
The Wages of Fear
Waiting for Guffman
waydowntown
White Christmas
Wings of Desire
Without a Clue
The Wizard of Speed and Time
The World of Henry Orient
You & Me & Everyone We Know
Young Frankenstein
Zulu
But, no worries…the best is yet to come!
See for yourself:
ADD:
the Accidental Tourist
the Bad Lieutenant – Port of Call, New Orleans
Bagdad Café
Batman (1989)
Batman Returns (1992)
Beetlejuice
Beverly Hills Cop
Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure
Blade II
Blast of Silence (1961)
Bob Roberts
Boogie Nights
Boyz N The Hood
Braindead / Dead Alive (1992)
Charley Varrick
Coming To America
Confessions of a Dangerous Mind
Cool Runnings
Dogville
eXistenZ
Falling Down
A Fish Called Wanda
48 Hrs.
the Friends of Eddie Coyle
the Frighteners
the Game (1997)
Gattaca
Ginger Snaps
Glengarry Glen Ross
Goldeneye
the Graduate (1967)
a History of Violence
House Party (1990)
Human Nature (2001)
Hustle & Flow
Inland Empire
JFK
the Killing of A Chinese Bookie
King of New York (1990)
Kiss of the Spider Woman
LA Story
Life of Brian
the Limey
Little Big Man
Little Shop of Horrors (1982)
the Lonely Guy (1984)
Magnolia
the Mask (1994)
Meet The Feebles
Monty Python’s Meaning of Life
Naked Lunch
Once Upon A Time In America
Only the Lonely
Out of Sight
the Piano (1993)
Pleasantville
Punch-Drunk Love
Rashomon
Red Rock West
Richard III (1995)
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
Roxanne (1987)
the Shadow (1994)
Smoke (1995)
Soylent Green
Starship Troopers
Steamboy
Straw Dogs (1971)
the Three Musketeers (1993)
Tin Men
Tootsie
Training Day
the Truman Show
24 Hour Party People
Wall Street (1987)
Wayne’s World
Weather Woman (1995)
Weekend At Bernie’s
White Men Can’t Jump
A Woman Under the Influence
World’s Greatest Dad (2009)
Zebraman
24 Hour Party People needs to stay at all costs…..yes I realize I just placed a target over its head.
Did Tijmen veto the entire list? I think it just goes to prove that however many people on the internet try to build a concensus, there’s always going to be some troll come along to screw it over.
Veto everything Tijmen added, even the stuff I like, because I’m that pissed off.
Actually, no, I did not veto the entire list. I carefully went through it and removed only selectively. But hey, if you don’t want to follow that example, be my guest…troll.
Also: my vetoing is proportionate to my adding – the same can’t be said for you, who threw out perfectly awesome flicks like ‘the Fly’ & ’12 Monkeys’ in favor of such thrilling fare as ‘Heathers’ & ‘Bride & Prejudice’.
Way to go in establishing *Geek Consesus*, puppet person! You’re just upset your mainstream movie wankfest got interrupted by someone with an actual shred of imagination & taste.
I never thought I’d see the day where The Big Crime Wave, Kitchen Party, Top of the Food Chain, and waydowntown were considered too mainstream for anybody. Indie Canadian cinema has made it big! Too bad it lacks any shred of imagination or taste; guess that’s what happens when it becomes a bloated corporate machine.
Veto:
Batman (1989)
Blade II
eXistenZ
Goldeneye
LA Story
The Mask (1994)
Red Rock West
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
Steamboy
Training Day
Add:
The God of Gamblers 2
Fong Sei Yuk
Gosford Park
Ghost World
Fast, Cheap, & Out of Control
Gates of Heaven
Hard Core Logo
Full Contact
Le Dernier Combat
@Tijmen – yeah, I was playing nice with others and discussing the whole idea and you turn up late and drive a truck through it and I’m the troll. Sure.
And dissing other people’s choices? That’s not trollish at all.
But you’ve answered the central question of the debate for me, at least. No, there can’t be a consensus because there will always be some jerk come along and trash anything that he doesn’t fit his narrow views.
I’m outa here.
P.S. Twelve Monkeys was obvious and boring to me. But lots of people like it so I’m not going to be a jerk and insist it’s a bad movie.
Much as I hate the fact that Tijem got rid of almost every movie worth watching on the list, I cannot in good conscience veto everything he added. Still, there are a mass of films here that certainly aren’t on my watch any time list. Most of the rest are films I haven’t seen and won’t veto on principle, but there are some good ones in there that deserve to be on the list.
Veto:
Batman (1989)
Batman Returns (1992)
Beetlejuice
Blade II
Bob Roberts
Boogie Nights
Boyz N The Hood
Braindead / Dead Alive (1992)
Dogville
eXistenZ
Falling Down
A Fish Called Wanda
48 Hrs.
Ginger Snaps
Glengarry Glen Ross
the Graduate (1967)
House Party (1990)
Hustle & Flow
JFK
King of New York (1990)
Meet The Feebles
Naked Lunch
Out of Sight
the Piano (1993)
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
the Shadow (1994)
Soylent Green
Straw Dogs (1971)
the Three Musketeers (1993)
Tootsie
the Truman Show
Wayne’s World
Weekend At Bernie’s
White Men Can’t Jump
Well, we’ve learned something important here. And that is that even if a single movie exists that everybody can agree on, there’s no way we’d want to sit down and watch that movie with everybody else on the Internet.
Veto the Accidental Tourist, the Bad Lieutenant – Port of Call, New Orleans, Beverly Hills Cop, Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure, Blast of Silence (1961), Coming To America, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, Cool Runnings, the Friends of Eddie Coyle, Kiss of the Spider Woman, the Limey, Little Big Man, the Lonely Guy (1984), Once Upon A Time In America, Only the Lonely, Pleasantville, Punch-Drunk Love, Rashomon, Richard III (1995), Roxanne (1987), Smoke (1995), Tin Men, 24 Hour Party People, Wall Street (1987), World’s Greatest Dad (2009)
Add D.E.B.S.
Amen Candlejack, Amen.
And kiss of the spider-woman was such an overrated flick. No spiders *or* women worth a damn in the whole thing.
Here’s what I make out to be the current list, if anyone still feels like playing (no veto update this time; just don’t have the heart to do it):
Bagdad Café, A Better Tomorrow II, Blackadder’s Christmas Carol, Charley Varrick, Children of Heaven, Dark City, D.E.B.S, Le Dernier Combat, Desperado, Die Hard, Dirty Harry, Dr. No, Ed Wood, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Fast Cheap & Out of Control, A Fistful of Dollars, Fong Sei Yuk, For a Few Dollars More, the Frighteners, The Fountain, From Dusk Til Dawn, The Fugitive, Full Contact, Galaxy Quest, the Game (1997), Gates of Heaven, Gattaca, The God of Gamblers 2, Gosford Park, Hard Core Logo, The Heroic Trio, a History of Violence, Howl’s Moving Castle, Human Nature (2001), Inland Empire, Ipcress File, The Iron Giant, Iron Monkey, Jackie Brown, the Killing of A Chinese Bookie, Kung Fu Hustle, Life of Brian, Little Shop of Horrors (1982), Magnolia, Monty Python’s Meaning of Life, North by Northwest, O Brother Where Art Thou?, Planet of the Apes, Princess Monoloke, The Professional, Ran, Rear Window, The Rocketeer, Run Lola Run, Sanjuro, Seven, Shaolin Soccer, Starship Troopers, The Taking of Pelham 123 (original), Trading Places (1983), Weather Woman (1995), A Woman Under the Influence, Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, The Wicker Man (original), Zebraman
Ghost World was already on the veto list, Mister Alex; sorry.
Starship Troopers is on the list? VETO!!! A thousand times VETO!!
Who vetoed Ghost World? i searched for it but couldn’t find it.
JA145 knocked it off, way back around the time plok and Fantomex were discussing the merits of To Kill a Mockingbird.
To be fair, neither he nor I discussed its merits — except that we both seem to agree Gregory Peck’s great in it.
Howl’s Moving Castle went out a long time ago, though, Candlejack. Hey, don’t shoot the messenger!
When? I saw it suggested twice, never saw it shot down. Note that I don’t really care, one way or the other, as I’ve never heard of it.
Add:
Down With Love
Braveheart
Commando
The Dark Knight (Batman)
Veto:
Das Boot
A Clockwork Orange
Fargo