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This guy clearly does not know America because we have pretty well-defined cultural and political boundaries…

New England(Maine, NH, Vermont, NY, Conn., Mass., RI)*CANADA*
New York/New Jersey*INDEPENDENT*
Mid-Atlantic(Penn., Maryland, Delaware, Virginia)*REMAINING U.S.A.*
The South(NC, SC, Georgia, Florida, Kentucky, Tenn., Alabama, Miss., Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas)*CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA)
Midwest(Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota)*CANADA*
The Plains(Iowa, Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, The Dakotas, Oklahoma, Wyoming)*WHO THE HELL KNOWS? WASTELAND? LIKE IN JUDGE DREDD THE MOVIE.*
Southwest(Arizona, New Mexico)*MEXICO*
Pacific Northwest(Washington, Oregon, Montana, Idaho)*CANADA*
Utah*MORMONS FINALLY GET THEIR OWN COUNTRY*
California*INDEPENDENT*
Alaska*INDEPENDENT*
Hawaii*INDEPENDENT*

The only states I can’t really put into a specific region are Colorado and West Virginia.

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The only states I can’t really put into a specific region are Colorado and West Virginia.

The ski resort cities will cede from everyone else and go out like Monaco or The Vatican – basically just independent resort states.

West Virginia will keep interbreeding until the population becomes a whole new species.

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No way New York turns control over to Canada. There is no rationale to support the notion that it would.

Its like a Filipino being elected as the Grand Wizard of the Klu Klux Klan – you just don’t waste time to think of such scenarios.

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“Its like a Filipino being elected as the Grand Wizard of the Klu Klux Klan ”

Which is in and of itself – a funny notion. I wonder if they wear their little hoodies when they vote on who is their ‘leader’.

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The Akaka bill hasn’t passed yet, IIRC, but I think Obama is on record for Hawaiian sovereignty. So, if it can clear Congress it’ll happen. Probably.

There’s no reason why a sovereign Hawaiian nation couldn’t open casinos, even if state laws forbid it. I say, go for it!

An independent Hawaii would have value as a vital shipping port, besides the geopolitical/military importance. Hawaii’s got a lot of leverage as a conduit between East and West. Given Japan’s own long ongoing financial problems, I don’t think they would be too significant in any alliances formed by an independent Hawaii; China would be a huge player, given their current trade dominance.

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I think if we had to respect state borders due to arbitrary rules, California would set off on its own (due to being one of the largest economies in the world with tech, entertainment, and agricultural industries)

Arnold could finally be President-for-life!

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This supposed breakup scheme reminds me a lot of the Phillip K. Dick novel Man in a High Tower, in which the US was defeated in WWII.

While I don’t find this partitioning likely or even convincing, I do like to see projections of an apocalyptic future map of the US. It’s the SciFi nerd in me.

For those like like fictional maps, see the GammaWorld campaign map.

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I’m just looking at that map and ROTFLMGAO. My Gods, that Russian idiot can’t tell economic-political separate from his socio-political, probably he can’t tell his ass from his elbow either!

I mean, for God’s sake, New England is NOT going to ally itself to Appalachian states like Kentecky or Tennessee. Hell, NEW YORK won’t be a part of the equation: they’ll probably form their own independent state. Just like Texas would: there’s no way the “Republic of Texas” would include Florida or Alabama or even Arkansas and Oklahoma.

If the United States does fracture into economic/social regional enclaves, the larger states like California, Texas, New York and Florida would most likely form independent single states. From that, things would break down into regions: with New England centered around Massachusetts, Pennsylvania merging with New Jersey, the mid-Atlantic merge with Maryland, Delaware, Virginia and North Carolina (which now has more in common with Virginia population-wise than South Carolina). South Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee and Kentucky merging in an SEC East format while Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana merging an SEC West coalition (they could still co-opt as one regional group, but again it depends on economics: if the country divides over cultural issues they would merge). Arkansas might merge with them, or perhaps with Missouri, however that state goes. The Great Lakes region would merge with West Virginia going with Ohio alongside Indiana and Michigan. Although WV shares more cultural links to Kentucky and Virginia, the upper Appalachian state is more blue-collar industrial and shares more economic issues with Ohio and Pennsylvania. Illinois is a wild card: it could go independent, but being landlocked it would feel the pressure to join either the Great Lakes/Midwest merger or the Mississippi River/Midwest coalition that would form with Minnesota, the Dakotas, Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas and Oklahoma. Wisconsin could also go with the Great Lakes alliance with Michigan, but it could pull to Minnesota. Missouri will be in the same fix as Illinois. Montana, Wyoming and Colorado will form a Rocky Mountains group. New Mexico will be ‘merged’ with Texas and no longer exist. Nevada will be merged also with California and no longer exist. Arizona will be forced into an independent status on its own, trapped between Cali and Texas. Washington State will join with Oregon and Idaho in a Pacific Northwest alliance, and could well steal northern California (everything north of San Francisco) away. Alaska and Hawaii, both physically separate from the mainland states already, will form independent states of their own.

Once the nation shatters into each of these pieces, prepare for border wars between: Texas and the Midwest alliances over Mexican trade routes; Florida vs. the SEC over water rights; California vs. the Pacific Northwest over the annexation of northern Cal. Mexico and Canada will be overwhelmed with refugees. Jamaica will rise up as an economic powerhouse to counter a Cuba divided by civil war (without a United States bullying them into a united cause, Cubans will rise up against the Castro regime). The UN will refuse to leave New York City because they can still break a lot of traffic laws there. It will be… utter chaos.

😉 How’s THAT, you Russian n00b? I got Harry Turtledove on line 3 asking for the novel rights. Snerk.

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Constaptedape said on January 3rd, 2009 at 3:16 pm

man…if i said some stupid ass shit like this they’d throw me in the loony bin

but if someone with a PhD says it oh man that’s a plausible theory

i wouldn’t mind becoming part of Canada though 😛

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carl pugh said on April 1st, 2011 at 6:34 pm

Guess what Igor? 2011 and we still have not broken up. Guess you don’t get Alaska.

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carl pugh said on April 1st, 2011 at 6:36 pm

Also, a bunch of you people have been saying stuff about radiation in the comments. when did Igors theory say anything about radiation?

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Ironically here in the future space year to 2011 it looks like the Eurozone is coming undone, but America shows no signs of coming apart. Eh, I’ll give it another thirty years before global climate change kicks in. Who knows what the future holds.

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