Public high school band shirts get banned because they reference evolution.
I’ve not once said that I reject evolution (which I don’t), or that I believe in Creationism (as it pertains to the “theory”). I’ve also said several times that I’ve been mistaken with my choice of words or, at times, have not been as clear as I should have been with what I was saying. In the post you’ve quoted (and in many following) I was simply trying to look at things from the other perspective, because conversations such as this one can often devolve into impolite bashing sessions (especially when religion is involved)- as I think you’ve done well in proving. I’m well aware of what a theory is. Like I said, I didn’t phrase that nearly as well as I could have. Had you actually taken the time to read the following posts in this discussion as opposed to flying off the handle and hurling insults at the first post you saw you might be aware of that.
I’ve not supported teaching creationism in schools in this post, nor do I in real life. I’ve been pretty adamant in several responses already that I think what happened in the article was ridiculous and wrong. I was simply pointing out that most religions believe in some form of creationism- not the “theory”, but the idea that we were created by a higher power or intelligent being of some sort, however it may have happened. That doesn’t make them all uneducated idiots, and it doesn’t mean that they all reject science, evolution, gravity, or whatever else you care to throw out there- though you may feel differently about them and, it seems, me. As hard as it will be, I’ll try not to let the fact that an anonymous person on the internet thinks I’m an idiot ruin my day.
I was under the impression that this was a comment section of a humor website/blog, not a professional debate or criminal trial. Next time I make the mistake of joining in on the conversation in the interests of fun and having a discussion, I’ll make sure to take it more seriously and have a 10 page research paper prepared on the subject to satisfy the few assholes that feel the need to tear random strangers down to inflate their own ego and sense of intellectual superiority as opposed to using their staggering intellect to actually read the posts and try to understand where the other person is coming from and not letting their own personal prejudices taint their response with unnecessary insults.
To the rest- I’ve enjoyed the conversation.
Had you actually taken the time to read the following posts in this discussion as opposed to flying off the handle and hurling insults at the first post you saw you might be aware of that.
I read them. I just still think you need the wakeup call, because, despite what you’ve said later, you don’t appear to get it.
I was simply pointing out that most religions believe in some form of creationism
Most religions are objectively counterfactual and absolutely incontroveritbly provably wrong, yes, you’re right.
That doesn’t make them all uneducated idiots, and it doesn’t mean that they all reject science, evolution, gravity, or whatever else you care to throw out there
Actually, it kind of does.
Rejecting evolution makes you at least one of:
3) Irredeemably stupid.
No exceptions *are possible*.
Creationism necessitates rejecting evolution, which means that all creationists are at least one of:
3) Irredeemably stupid.
As hard as it will be, I’ll try not to let the fact that an anonymous person on the internet thinks I’m an idiot ruin my day.
Oh, come on, I don’t think you’re *necessarily* an idiot! I totally admit the possibility that you might just be ignorant and uneducated!
PS: Yes, I’m relatively anonymous. But my name really is John, and the website link really is mine. The email address is a dumpheap of nonsense, but it’s the same dumphead of nonsense that I give to all web forums and discussions.
I was under the impression that this was a comment section of a humor website/blog, not a professional debate or criminal trial.
I am very sad that you’ve made the mistake of thinking that the evidence changes based on the audience.
In the mean time, because you said “I’ve enjoyed it and I appreciate all who’ve taken the time to respond, even if it’s been a little far to the left of the topic at times.“, I will point out Ichneumon, a Freeper (which is to say, significantly to the right of Attilla The Hun) who understands basic sceince and can explain it to you from a more comfortable POV.
You keep saying “rejecting evolution”, but if someone personally believes that evolution was originally designed or guided by a higher power how is that rejecting it? Sure, they may be rejecting the “completely by chance” portion, but that’s about it. I actually know, both personally and professionally, many highly educated men and women who believe that very thing- some of whom are research scientists that absolutely believe in evolution, support it being taught in schools (and even teach it themselves), etc. They’ve just applied their own personal spiritual beliefs to what they’ve found to be backed up by scientific evidence and to fill in whatever “gaps” there are that science has been unable to prove yet or is still a complete mystery. Perhaps that’s not good enough for you, but your opinion of them won’t affect them one iota, nor does it affect their jobs or the research that they do. They’re not uneducated or idiots, they just believe that there’s room to account for the possibility that there may be forces out there that science has yet to explain- such as God or whatever you care to place there. However, don’t bother to respond because it’s rather pointless. Besides, I got what I came for.
You see, I totally “get it”, I’m just working on gathering evidence for a theory of my own. My going theory is you’re a smug asshole who only sees what he wants to see in people’s responses because he’s blinded by his own perceptions about people and things- such as religion- and is incapable of talking like a rational, decent human being without being condescending or resorting to insults. So far I’ve been able to gather evidence to support my theory, and given your response I was even able to predict places to look for new facts! Science is great! (But it ain’t blowin’ me.)- Sorry, been thinking about that quote since this topic began and even went back to read MGK’s version of Civil War over again. Still hilarious!
Anyway, it’s a workable theory, though I think it may only apply to online interactions given the the relatively safe environment that quasi-anonymity and social detachment the internet provides. This is, of course, building off of the foundation of Penny Arcade’s “Fuckwad” theory laid out in regards to online game playing. For reference: (http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/215499488_8pSZr-L-2.jpg)
Sorry about that, the art section of their site is down so the link didn’t work. Let’s try this one: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/3/19/
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