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lilacsigil said on October 3rd, 2008 at 1:52 am

Harper’s deathglare is fucking terrifying. I want him and Putin to stand either side of Bush and watch Bush’s head explode, like that fake experiment with the mobile phones and an egg.

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I can’t watch this here, and this is better than watching it, because MGK is way better at interpreting and summarizing what they’re saying than I am.

Plus, I saw Dion live and I if Duceppe is worse I won’t understand a word he says.

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One comment? That’s disappointing, considering how many readers you’ve got. You really ought to add in something to draw the regulars, ie. “then Brainiac Five said this, but Dr. Regulus disputed it, and Mordru insisted the green economy/reimbursable credits/his magical moustache will fix everything.” I guess I am a Brainiac Five supporter, come to think of it. Though I never did get around to voting for him in the periodic polls of readers to pick the leader, how many Legion stories turned on the leader asking Brainy what to do?

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Minute seventy-one is when I said fuck it and went fully over to the VP “debate” so a tip of the hat to you, sir.

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“I don’t think he’s getting his majority.”

Oh, how I hope you’re right about that.

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US Presidential debates would be worth watching if they let in Nader and whoever this elections Lib guy is (Brown?) just to yell at McCain and rant about Bush…

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“I don’t think he’s getting his majority.”

Honestly, I don’t know. If he does, it will be on the basis of Dion being eminently forgettable, Layton appearing to be a used car salesman, May being from a party with no chance historically (who feels like throwing away their vote) and Duceppe being a separatist.

And I think the odds of that are frighteningly possible.

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“May being from a party with no chance historically (who feels like throwing away their vote)” — The Imp

I’ve always wondered: how many people who vote for the Liberals or for the NDP do so only because they feel a Green vote is a wasted vote?

The party has consistently gotten about 10% of the vote in recent years. That is not insignificant, and in a saner electoral system would translate into at least some seats in Parliament.

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I actually find this strange, new, confrontational NDP a refreshing change. Like watching a Jack Russel go balls out to take down a Rottweiler. I hope it pays off for them.

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Thanks man,

I hope you’re right about Harper not getting a majority.

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Ha, and Karen Whaley said she didn’t want to liveblog this debate! WHO’S LAUGHING NOW, WHALEY?

Me, kinda! That was a super long and kind of boring debate. Maybe it just seemed long watching the VP and Canadian debate and one sitting. I am debated out.

Anyway, re: arts funding, I had to cringe a bit for Jack Leighton when he was like, “Arts cuts censor people!” and Harper was like, “Umm, how do they do that?” because arts cuts don’t technically directly shrmevlekly censor people, Bill C-10 does. And Leighton really struggled because he was like, “Fuck, what was it that Harper is doing that censors people?” and Harper just sat there and watched him squirm. Thank the left-wing gods that Elizabeth May stepped in, she was fantastic. Her little rant about strategy was fresh, true, and something we haven’t heard much about in the media.

Mostly, I loved hearing Harper quantify his supposed appreciation for the arts: “I play a little piano, and my extended family sometimes plays other instruments, and my daughter is super good at drawing, !” At one point, Leighton was talking about people working in the film industry in his riding of Toronto-Danforth and Harper was like, “I know, my wife’s cousin is one of them!” with a little smirk. I feel like he should use that tactic more often: “I know, my wife’s aunt’s mailman’s daughter has cerebral palsy, therefore I am in touch with healthcare!”

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…That was surprisingly fascinating. Canada must have reallllllllllly smart people if actual substantiative debate and talk is what wins elections, not stupid empty promises and sabotage tactics.

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lawnmower boy said on October 3rd, 2008 at 2:26 pm

Yeah, Luna, we’re like gods up here. (Oh, that’s good eye-rollin’).
Anyway, thanks for your blogging, MGK. Now I don’t have to feel guilty and stuff for missing both debates.

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due to Canadians having a low tolerance for electing intolerant fundamentalist Muppets to office

Wait, I thought Stephen Harper was PM, and the intolerant fundamentalist Muppets who hijacked the PC are poised to get a majority government handed to them. Perhaps the statement is still true of a majority of Canadians, but given that the majority apparently votes as if Canada had proportional representation, such low tolerance has only so much effect on the outcome.

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I do hope you’re right, MGK, but the little news-blips and conversation chunks here at Bay and King revolve around “Harper won that debate” and bemoaning the fact that all the other meany politicians were picking on him. News coverage I’ve read or seen seems to indicate that the fix is in – either they weren’t watching the same debate, or our standards have hit rock-bottom.

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Evan: Without representation based on popular vote, it will take the Greens decades to have any political clout whatsoever (and then, the opportunity would be only in minority governments, which are certainly not the norm).

I imagine a lot of people shy away from the “third” parties on that basis. The liberal party is notorious for their “don’t split the vote” schtick, which surely costs the NDP and Green votes that wouldn’t matter every year. I couldn’t honestly tell you how many, but it’s certainly one of the reasons I don’t vote green.

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Well, the Greens have some political clout now, don’t they? I’m sure Stephane Dion thinks so.

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Karen:
Dark Helmet: I am your father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate.
Lone Starr: What’s that make us?
Dark Helmet: Absolutely nothing-—which is what you are about to become.

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I hope Harper don’t get the majority either.

I’d’ve commented earlier, but I was working. In a pharmacy, which is a prime spot for the elderly* to whine and bitch about pharmacare not paying for their pills because they’re sixty fucking days early (meaning they got their three months worth of pills a mere thirty days ago, meaning they have sixty days worth of pills left!). By God, I swear old people are going to drive me to vote Harper, since he’d probably privatize healthcare and send the old people out to fucking die.

* Some of them are very nice people, but others are completely fucking retarded poster sacks of skin and bone for why Logan’s Run needs to be a documentary, not a work of fiction.

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Ah yes, good old Canada. We have substantive debate here. Nothing we do matters in any way, but we’re substantive, goddammit.

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