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Craig Oxbrow said on April 18th, 2010 at 10:40 pm

I agree, I’ve described the films as adaptations of the credits rather than the show before, and as you say they’re all very much recognisable as their creators’ work.

Since I loved Alias I was looking forward to a second Abrams version, but a Brad Bird one could well be great too.

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Tom Galloway said on April 18th, 2010 at 11:46 pm

I still wish, assuming his family was notified in advance and was OK with it, that the day after Peter Graves’ death either Secretary Clinton or Secretary Gates had made a public announcement that they disavowed any knowledge of Jim Phelps’ actions.

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Tom,
That would have been wonderful if it could have happened or even during the Oscar’s lets remember the dead bit. Craig they were never going to make a 2nd Abrams MI for a number of reasons but the main one is that they have decided that making each movie a mostly different film distinctive by it’s director. There are a few different reasons for this and most of them are financial. Tom Cruise is really expensive possibly more so since they fired him, each director they got was costly but not as costly as hiring the same guy again. This has mad e the MI movies all the better for that fact. A really interesting book to check out is “The Hollywood Economist” by Edward Jay Epstein which actually mentions MI 1 and MI 2 and the incredible deal Mr Cruise got. I would also like to say that I’m really looking forward to MI 4
Jonathan

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Aside from a black guy leaning over and gleefully speaking in tech talk, I am very happy to say that I have absolutely no recollection of anything having to do with those forgetful mission impossible movies.

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Zenrage, what about a bomb exploding in a woman’s brain being signified by one eye rolling sideways?

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Martin Landieu himself described the films as only being about the theme song.Frankly, the movies WOULD be better if they were closer to the series, with it’s ensemble cast and twisty, “STING”-style plots…but you’d never get either in a Tom Cruise film.

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The thing is that the TV series wasn’t especially any better than the movies. The characters were two-dimensional, and the plots were really pretty generic ’60s crime plots. So, essentially, the TV series was about the theme song, too.

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Mary Warner said on April 19th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

I only saw the show once or twice, and I’ve never seen the movies, but the basic theme does seem flexible enough for a wide variety of styles. My one (mild) objection to the movies (which again, I have not seen) is that, judging by the trailors, they seem to be built around Cruise as the star, instead of being ensemble pieces, which is what I thought Mission Impossible was supposed to be.
(Have they tried to get Martin Landau to appear in any of them? Isn’t he great in everything, and wouldn’t he provide a cool connection to the original version?)

(By the way, I haven’t seen the other TV series, from the ’90s or whenever it was, either. Did ANYBODY ever see it? I’d completely forgotten it existed, then it suddenly popped into my mind as I was reading this.)

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I’m old enough to remember both the re-runs of the original series and the late-80s/early-90s reboot/remake/sequel. I miss the ensemble action of that series (the tech guy, the action guy, the brains, the disguise guy, the girl). It was always fun seeing how they’d solve problems. If they were to move towards a groovy team pic, I’d watch it even if it did headline Cruise.

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wsmcneil said on April 19th, 2010 at 5:51 pm

“But the Mission: Impossible franchise, as it exists, has no unity of theme or character or style, so it doesn’t matter if they don’t match up.”

In spirit, at least, that does kind of capture the show. The idea was you had this ensemble team that collectively included experts in anything, and were all especially good at pretending to be something other than what they were, so you could send them to do any kind of job in any style of story and they’d have a plan.

In practice, it wasn’t ever that open ended, and the plots (of the episodes I saw, at least) were fairly repetitive — they always got sent to Eastern Where-Ever-The-Fuckistan to simultaneously steal back the microfilm with the missile codes and discredit the general by impersonating him at the Annual SPECTRE Wannabes ball in some spectacular gotcha! fashion. Then — poof — it’s a liberal democracy in 10 minutes.

But the ensemble thing was a cool part of the show, and I agree that it was mostly absent from the films (a little bit in the first one). However, “The Incredibles” was an example of *exactly* how to do an ensemble action movie — everybody got moments to shine individually, everybody played to their own strengths in the multihero slugfest at the end — so it’s entirely possible that Bird could bring that element back.

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gustopher said on April 19th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

I did like that at the end of one of the movies, Tom Cruise says to his movie-wife: “I’m an agent with the IMF.”

If only she had responded with a puzzled look and said “International Monetary Fund?”

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“…they always got sent to Eastern Where-Ever-The-Fuckistan…”

Please! It was the 60s. East Where-Ever-The-Fuckylvania.

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