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I agree. I never consider Kesel my favorite writer, but I am never less than at least entertained by his books.

You point out his Kirby references, and that’s something he shines on…because he’s wants to use them, but not in some slavish way to what Kirby did. Kirby stuff showed up all over Superboy, but it never felt like “And here’s some Kirby stuff, lets fap to it.” like, say, Morrison does. It always felt “Comics are a weird place, and here are some weird parts to it.”

(And you mention his 2 runs on Superboy, but don’t forget the superlative Superboy and the Ravers)

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Brian Smith said on September 14th, 2012 at 5:00 pm

I love the story behind “Final Night” (and I’m going by memory here): Kesel was looking for someone in the DC Universe smart enough to figure out what was happening, but still capable of being cowed by Lex Luthor. At which point someone said, “You know Brainiac 5 is back in the 20th century, right?” At which point Kesel was all, like, “yes YES PERFECT,” and proceeded to set up one of my favorite lines in all of comics: “Wow, Mr. Luthor, you and Brainiac make quite a team!”

And the juvenile part of me will always appreciate his Superboy’s first meeting with Matrix-era Supergirl: “Aww, I was chest choking…I mean, just joking!”

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Positronic Brain said on September 14th, 2012 at 5:17 pm

I’ll just say that “Hawk & Dove”, the mini-series and the ongoing, are my favorite comics ever.

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The Crazed Spruce said on September 14th, 2012 at 5:27 pm

The “Hawk & Dove” mini remains Rob Leifeld’s finest work. It took me years to realize that it was because of Kesel’s inks.

Personally, my favourite story of Kesel’s was the issue of “Adventures of Superman” which guest-starred the original Challenges of the Unknown, and actually took place between panels of an issue of their original series.

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Such a strong mainstream comics creator. I always hope that, in our understandable rush to diversify the medium away from its dominant genre, we never start disrespecting such talented pros who have brought such spark to what they do.
Has Karl Kesel given me more pleasure over his career than Chris Ware? Yes, of course he has. It’s not a competition, but …

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Patrick Rawley said on September 14th, 2012 at 7:59 pm

Hawk & Dove mini, yeah, probably the only Liefield comics I own. And I glanced at some of the Superboy stuff, in a moment of comics-weakness. Final Night, that was some Sun-Eater thing, right? Didn’t green Arrow die too? Yeah, well, don’t worry, none of those stories ever happened. YET. I remember when DC did the same thing, back in the Eighties and all these older fans were crying in their beer*(the letter pages of Amazing Heroes, mainly) about the lack of Beppo the Super Monkey and Comet the Super Horse (who was actually Supergirl’s BOYFRIEND …)and all that crazy Silver Age crap (that was actually AWESOME – except for the horse-boyfriend, I guess ..) … DC just cherry-picked what they wanted from the Silver Age repackaged it to be “gritty” and “neon” and ran their company into the ground. AGAIN. How many times have they hit the Reboot Button? Then again, the Reboot Button is very tempting, in a Ren & Stimpy kinda way.

Anyway. Wow. Today I learned that I also love Karl Kesel. Sold all his comics too? For a special needs baby? Jeez. Whatta guy.

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I finished rereading the Hawk and Dove a few months back. It’s the only time I’ve actually liked any version of the characters. I knew I’d enjoy it when the villain’s secret in one issue turns out to be that he’s immortal but way younger than he lets everyone believe, so if it gets out, he loses status.
Kesel also did the Challengers of the Fantastic for the Amalgam universe, and the Iron Lantern title. Both fun.

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Patrick: Green Arrow didn’t die during Final Night; we found out later that he was reborn in it from bits and pieces still on Superman’s costume after he exploded.

Fraser: Kurt Busiek wrote Iron Lantern; the issue ended on a cliffhanger, and someone wondered on (I think) Usenet what would happen next, and Busiek gave the plot synopsis to the second issue that he knew he’d never get the chance to write.

Kesel DID do Spider-Boy, and came up with a really clever reveal that dips into the same Silver Age territory as the Luthor-Brainiac team: The clone was named after the scientist who discovered the spider-powers (Peter Parker) and the military man who raised him (Gen. “Thunderbolt” Ross, known to Spider-Boy as “Uncle Gen.”) So at the midway point of the book, we realize that Spider-Boy is named “Pete Ross.”

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Karl’s one of the solid journeymen out there who can always be relied on to tell/draw/ink/etc. a good story. I think he often gets short shrift because many people think of him (when they think of him) as being “only” an inker (and thus not comics-superstar-level talent), not noticing everything else that he’s done (as well as what being an inker entails when the penciller is someone like Liefeld).

However, I think he’s at his best when teamed up with Barbara, who is a *superlative* comics writer, hands down. Can we get a sequel post for her justly deserved lauds?

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SilverHammerMan said on September 15th, 2012 at 12:12 am

That is an awesome thing for Busiek to do for the fans. I never got to read Spider-Boy, so I can’t speak to the actual quality of the story, but I always felt that it was one of the more infuriating ideas in the Amalgam universe, since Superboy and Spider-Man have literally nothing in common other than (at the time) they were both clones. Completely different character with completely different ideas at the center. One of many Amalgam character that were based on character with superficial similarities and lack the subtle appeal of the originals. See Dark Claw and Super Soldier for other characters that missed the mark conceptually.

OT though, to my shame, I hadn’t heard of Karl Kesel before now, given his low profile role in comics, but now that I have I just might have to track down some of his stuff. I firmly believe that comics need more creators like Kesel is described. Solid, unpretentious creators who understand the characters and how to have fun with them, but also understand that not every story needs to be an earth shattering, ground breaking, nothing-will-ever-be-the-same epic that ultimately means nothing.

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Evil Midnight Lurker said on September 15th, 2012 at 12:24 am

I want to live in the alternate universe where the Kesels have never stopped doing Hawk and Dove. And Superboy.

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Brian Smith said on September 15th, 2012 at 1:08 am

I finally got curious enough to go sifting through 1997 Usenet postings (I’m stuck at work on Friday nights). I know it’s off-topic, but here’s Kurt Busiek’s synopsis of the never-to-be-published “Iron Lantern” No. 2. found under the April 4, 1997 posting titled “Immortal Reviews: Iron Lantern #1 [SPOILERS]”:

“Pepper Ferris does not know that Hal is really Iron Lantern, but Madame Sapphire does, and when she realizes just what that shooting star is, her submerged love for Hal spurs her to save him. She powers up his
armor with sapphire energy, and the two of them go looking for the lantern. They catch up to Kyle just as he’s realized that Mandarinestro is about to kill him, and save both his life and the battery. Kyle becomes the Green Guardsman, and the three of them open up a can of whupass on Mandarinestro — which, for all their power, would go badly
for them if not for the timely arrival of Tagak, Lantern-Lord.

“Mandarinestro escapes, but Tagak has some revelations for Hal about Oa, the Living Planet — and Janice Doremus is back at Stark Aircraft, and she’s got secrets of her own, secrets that involve the deadly Lamplight Phantom…”

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Brian, thank you!
Silverhammer, I liked Spiderboy but I agree there didn’t seem to be any clear rules for who got merged with whom (other than what someone thought would make an interesting story). For example Amazon isn’t a merging of Ororo and Wonder Woman, it’s more like an alt.history where Ororo got adopted by the Amazons but stayed herself.

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IIRC, Ellis didn’t quit Doom 2099 in response to the firing of Cavalieri, but I think he left sooner than planned because he saw the writing on the wall. Tom Peyer, his successor, did quit as a show of solidarity with Cavalieri.

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Kesel’s run on Daredevil is the last time i really liked Daredevil until Waid came on the book. Kesel gets that the character is supposed to be a fun character, not a brooding douchebag. He gets Stan Lee’s vision for the character and so does Waid.

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Carlos Futino said on September 17th, 2012 at 6:56 am

Kesel’s run on Daredevil was really great. Just before the Mr. Hyde issue, he had DD meet with Ben Reilly as Spider-Man. One of my favorite DD issues ever. Karen Page, Peter Parker and Ben Ulrich trying to cover up for DD without realizing they all know who he is was classic. Also, “Despicable Daredevil” should have stuck.

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Kessel’s run on Daredevil was one of my favorites, especially considering it had to follow the “Jack Batlin/armor costume” era. And his Superboy was the first monthly I followed from the beginning (and the only “Super” book I followed after the “Death and Return” story)

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Lightning Lord said on December 9th, 2012 at 3:56 am

I assume Tucker Stone would have bad things to say about Kesel because he is Tucker Stone.

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