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Mister Alex said on June 9th, 2010 at 1:04 pm

Veto Split Second (1992)

Add:
The Big Crime Wave (John Paisz)
waydowntown
Kitchen Party
Top of the Food Chain
Kung Fu Hustle

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Candlejack said on June 10th, 2010 at 2:19 am

Did you realize Dumb and Dumber was still in it? I didn’t. Veto that.

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Candlejack said on June 10th, 2010 at 2:26 am

Updated List:

Adaptation, All About Eve, Amadeus,

Back to the Future Part 2, Bambi Vs Godzilla, Baxter (1989), Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead, La Belle et la Bete (1946 Cocteau), The Big Crime Wave (John Paisz), Big Fish, The Big Sleep (1946), Bird, The Bishop’s Wife (original), Blackadder’s Christmas Carol, Blood & Donuts, Bride and Prejudice, Bride of Frankenstein, Brotherhood of the Wolf, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid,

Cabaret, Casablanca, Casino Royale (2006), Children of Heaven, Coraline, The Court Jester, Curse of the Demon,

Dark City, The Day the Earth Stood Still (original), Dazed and Confused, Densha Otoko, Desperado, Die Hard, The Dirty Dozen, Dirty Harry, Dr. No, Dr. Zhivago, Dog Soldiers, Do the Right Thing,

Ed Wood, El Dorado (John Wayne), The Elephant Man, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind,

The Fall, A Fistful of Dollars, Flight of the Navigator, For a Few Dollars More, The Fountain, From Dusk Til Dawn, The Front Page, The Fugitive,

Galaxy Quest, Ghandi, Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla, Goldfinger, Grand Theft Auto, Grosse Point Blank,

Hard Target, The Heroic Trio, His Girl Friday, Howl’s Moving Castle,

Imagine Me and You, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Into the Woods (original cast), The In-Laws (original), Ipcress File, The Iron Giant, Iron Monkey, It Happened One Night,

Jackie Brown,

King Kong (original), Kitchen Party, Kung Fu Hustle,

Lawrence of Arabia, Little Women (1994), Local Hero, Lucky Number Sleven,

The Maltese Falcon, The Man Who Shot Liberty Vance, The Matador, Melody (Melody Fair/SWALK) Memories, A Mighty Wind, Millenium Actress, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Mulholland Drive, Murmur of the Heart, My Favorite Year,

The Neverending Story, A Night at the Opera, Night on Earth, North by Northwest, Notorious (Hitchcock),

O Brother, Where Art Thou?, The Odd Couple, Ocean’s Eleven (2001), Office Space, Once Upon a Time in the West, One Night Stand, One Two Three,

Pale Rider, The Phantom of the Opera (Lon Chaney), Planet of the Apes, Predator, The Prestige, Primer, Princess Monoloke, The Professional, Project X, Pump Up the Volume,

Quick Change,

Ran, Ravenous, Rear Window, Rio Bravo, The Road Warrior, The Rocketeer, Rocky, Romeo & Juliet (Zeffirelli 1868), Rope, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead, Run Lola Run,

Sanjuro, School of Rock, Secretary, Seven, 1776, The Seventh Seal, Shaolin Soccer, Shadow of the Vampire, A Shot in the Dark (Pink Panther), Singin’ in the Rain, Sixteen Candles, Sleuth, Some Like It Hot, Spider-Man, Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, The Sting, Strange Days, The Stunt Man, Sukeban Deka: Counter Attack of the Kazama Sisters,

The Taking of Pelham 123 (original), The Terminator, Terminator 2: Judgement Day, Theater of Blood, There Will Be Blood, Three Days of the Condor, The Three Musketeers/Four Musketeers (70s), To Be or Not To Be (Mel Brooks), Top of the Food Chain, Trading Places (1983), The Tune, 28 Weeks Later,

Undercover Blues, Unforgiven, Up in Smoke,

Vanishing Point, Vertigo,

The Wages of Fear, Waiting for Guffman, waydowntown, White Christmas, Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, The Wicker Man (original), Without a Clue, The Wizard of Speed and Time, The World of Henry Orient,

Yojimbo, Young Frankenstein,

Zulu

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Candlejack said on June 10th, 2010 at 2:34 am

Updated Veto List:

The Adventures of Baron Munchausen, The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938), Airplane, Akira, Aladdin, Alien, Aliens, Amelie, American History X, American Psycho, Animal House, Annie Hall, Apocalypse Now, Army of Darkness, Arsenic and Old Lace, Audition, Avatar,

Back to the Future, Batman Begins, Batteries Not Included, Before Sunrise, Before Sunset, Being John Malkovich, Better Off Dead, The Big Lebowski, Big Trouble in Little China, Billy’s Hollywood Screen Kiss, Das Boot, The Bourne Identity, Blade Runner, Blazing Saddles, The Blues Brothers, Blue Velvet, Brazil, Breakfast at Tiffany’s, Brick, Bringing Up Baby, Bubba Ho-Tep, Buckaroo Banzai: Across the 8th Dimension, A Bug’s Life, Bugsy Malone, Bulworth, But I’m a Cheerleader!,

Cabin Boy, Caddyshack, Cars, Casino, Catch Me if You Can, Chasing Amy, Chicago, Chicken Run, Clerks, Children of Men, Chinatown, City Lights, A Clockwork Orange, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Clue, Contact, Cowboy Bebop, The Crow,

Dangerous Liasons, The Dark Crystal, The Dark Knight, Dark Star, Dawn of the Dead, Dave (1993), Death Race 2000, Death to Smoochy, The Departed, The Descent, Doctor Strangelove, Dogma, Donnie Darko, Drop Dead Gorgeous, Drunken Master 2, Dumb and Dumber, Dune,

Empire, Empire Records, The Empire Strikes Back, Enter the Dragon, Equilibrium, ET, Eyes Wide Shut, Evil Dead II,

Fannie and Alexander, Fargo, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, The Fearless Vampire Hunters, Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, The Fifth Element, Fight Club, Finding Nemo, First Blood, (500) Days of Summer, Flash Gordon (1980), The Fly (1986), Forbidden Planet, Full Metal Jacket, The Full Monty,

Gamera the Defender of the Universe, Ghostbusters, Ghost Dog, Ghost World, The Godfather, The Godfather Part II, Godzilla/Gojira, Godzilla: Final Wars, Goodfellas, The Good the Bad and the Ugly, Good Will Hunting, The Goonies, Gone with the Wind, Grand Canyon, Gremlins, Groundhog Day,

Happy Gilmore, Heat, Heathers, High Fidelity, Highlander, High Society, Hot Fuzz, Hudson Hawk, The Hudsucker Proxy, Hunt for Red October,

In Bruges, The Incredibles, Inglourious Basterds, Iron Man, Iron Man 2, The Italian Job (1969), It’s a Wonderful Life, It’s My Party,

Jaws, Jacob’s Ladder, The Jerk, Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter, Juno, Jurassic Park,

Kiki’s Delivery Service, Kill Bill, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Koyaanisqatsi, Knocked Up,

Labyrinth, LA Confidential, Last Night, Last of the Mohicans, The Last Starfighter, Latter Days, The Lion King, Little Miss Sunshine, Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, Logan’s Run, Lone Star, Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Rings, Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, Love Actually,

The Machine Girl, Mallrats, Mama Mia, The Man Who Fell to Earth, The Man with Two Brains, Master & Commander: the Far Side of the World, The Matrix, Mega Shark Vs Giant Octopus, Memento, Men in Black, Metropolis, Metropolis (2001), Miller’s Crossing, Minority Report, MirrorMask, The Mist, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, Monsters Inc., Monster Squad, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Moon, The Mummy (Brendan Frasier), Muppet Christmas Carol, The Muppet Movie, Muppet Treasure Island, Murder by Death, My Neighbor Totoro, Mystery Men, Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie, Mystic River,

Nick and Norah’s Infinite Playlist, The Nightmare Before Christmas, Night of the Living Dead,

Old Boy, One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, 101 Dalmations,

Pan’s Labyrinth, The Patriot, Payback (1999), Pee Wee’s Big Adventure, Perfume: the Story of a Murderer, Persepolis, The Philadelphia Story, Pi, Pink Floyd: the Wall, The Pink Panther Strikes Again, Pirate Radio, Pirates of the Caribbean, Point Blank, Police Story 3, The Princess Bride, The Producers, Pulp Fiction,

The Quiet Earth,

Raiders of the Lost Ark, Raising Arizona, Ransom, Ratatouille, Real Genius, Rebecca, Repo Man, Requiem for a Dream, Reservoir Dogs, Return of the Pink Panther, Return to Oz, The Right Stuff, Robocop, Rock and Rule, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, Ronin, The Royal Tennenbaums, The Running Man, Rushmore, Ruthless People,

Saving Private Ryan, Scarface, Schindler’s List, Scrooged, Serenity, Seven Samurai, Sexy Beast, Shaun of the Dead, The Shawshank Redemption, The Shining, Short Circuit, Shrek, The Silence of the Lambs, Silverado, Silver Streak, Sin City, Sixth Sense, Slither, Slumdog Millionaire, Smoking Aces, Snatch, Sneakers, Spaceballs, The Specials, Spider-Man 2, Spirited Away, Split Second (1992), Stagecoach, Stardust, Star Wars, Stargate, Starsky and Hutch, Star Trek (2009), Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Star Trek IV, Strictly Ballroom, Superbad, Superman, Superman II,

Tanpopo, Tarzan (Disney), Tenacious D: The Pick of Destiny, 10 Things I Hate About You, Thank You For Smoking, Them (1954), The Thing, The Third Man, The 13th Warrior, 30 Days of Night, This Is Spinal Tap, The Three Musketeers (Disney, 90s), Throne of Blood, Time Bandits, Titan AE, To Kill a Mockingbird, Tombstone, Tommy Boy, Total Recall (1990), Toy Story, Toy Story 2, Trainspotting, Transformers: the Movie (1986), Les Triplettes de Belleville, Tron, 12 Monkeys, 28 Days Later, Twister, 2001: A Space Odyssey,

Unbreakable, The Untouchables, Up, Used Cars, The Usual Suspects,

The Valet, Videodrome,

Waking Ned Devine, WALL-E, Watchmen, Watership Down, The Wedding Singer, When Harry Met Sally, Willow, The Wizard of Oz,

X-Men 2,

Yellowbeard, Yellow Submarine,

Zombieland, Zoolander

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Veto: Secretary

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Veto: Juno
Add: You and me and everyone we know

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Allegretto said on June 10th, 2010 at 10:26 am

Wow Candlejack, thanks a lot.

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Mister Alex said on June 10th, 2010 at 2:01 pm

Much appreciated Candlejack!

Veto:
Adaptation, Bride & Prejudice, Bride of Frankenstein, Mulholland Drive, Star Trek VI, Terminator 2 Judgment Day

Add:
A Better Tomorrow, A Better Tomorrow II, Big Night, Hard-Boiled, South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut, Speed, Wings of Desire

“He’d come and veto a film or two, that’s what Brian Boitano’d do!”

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Marionette said on June 10th, 2010 at 3:13 pm

Veto Back to the Future part 2, The Big Sleep, A Better Tomorrow, Flight of the Navigator, His Girl Friday, Hard-Boiled, Memories, Pale Rider, South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut, Speed, The Road Warrior, 28 Weeks Later.

Add Kind Hearts and Coronets, Bring It On, Saviour of the Soul.

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Veto:

Sixteen Candles
There will be Blood
Bring it On
Shadow of the Vampie

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Candlejack said on June 11th, 2010 at 12:14 am

I’m not gonna lie, updating was a pain in the ass. No wonder Seavey hasn’t been back to do it! But it’s nice to know where we stand now, isn’t it?

Add Bound.

Veto Do the Right Thing.

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Thanks Candlejack! Unfortunately, common decency necessitated I make some improvements:

VETO:
All About Eve
Amadeus
Bambi VS Godzilla
Baxter (1989)
Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead
La Belle et la Bete (1946 Cocteau)
The Big Crime Wave (John Paisz)
Big Fish
Big Night
Bird
The Bishop’s Wife (original)
Blood & Donuts
Bound
Brotherhood of the Wolf
Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid
Cabaret
Casablanca
Casino Royale (2006)
Coraline
The Court Jester
Curse of the Demon
The Day the Earth Stood Still (original)
Dazed & Confused
Densha Otoko
The Dirty Dozen
Dr. Zhivago
Dog Soldiers
El Dorado (John Wayne)
The Elephant Man
The Fall
Flight of the Navigator
The Front Page
Ghandi
Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla
Goldfinger
Grand Theft Auto
Grosse Point Blank
Hard Target
Imagine Me and You
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Into the Woods (original cast)
The In-Laws (original)
It Happened One Night
Kind Hearts & Coronets
King Kong (original)
Kitchen Party
Lawrence of Arabia
Little Women (1994)
Local Hero
Lucky Number Sleven
The Maltese Falcon
The Man Who Shot Liberty Vance
The Matador
Melody (Melody Fair/SWALK)
A Mighty Wind
Millenium Actress
Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
Murmur of the Heart
My Favorite Year
The Neverending Story
A Night at the Opera
Night on Earth
Notorious (Hitchcock)
The Odd Couple
Ocean’s Eleven (2001)
Office Space
Once Upon a Time in the West
One Night Stand
One Two Three
The Phantom of the Opera (Lon Chaney)
Predator
The Prestige
Project X
Pump Up the Volume
Quick Change
Ravenous
Rio Bravo
Rocky
Romeo & Juliet (Zeffirelli 1868)
Rope
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead,
Saviour of the Soul
School of Rock
1776
The Seventh Seal
A Shot in the Dark (Pink Panther)
Singin’ in the Rain
Sleuth
Some Like It Hot
Spider-Man
The Sting
Strange Days
The Stunt Man
Sukeban Deka: Counter Attack of the Kazama Sisters
The Terminator
Theater of Blood
Three Days of the Condor
The Three Musketeers/Four Musketeers (70s)
To Be or Not To Be (Mel Brooks)
Top of the Food Chain
The Tune
Undercover Blues
Unforgiven
Up in Smoke
Vanishing Point
Vertigo
The Wages of Fear
Waiting for Guffman
waydowntown
White Christmas
Wings of Desire
Without a Clue
The Wizard of Speed and Time
The World of Henry Orient
You & Me & Everyone We Know
Young Frankenstein
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But, no worries…the best is yet to come!
See for yourself:

ADD:
the Accidental Tourist
the Bad Lieutenant – Port of Call, New Orleans
Bagdad Café
Batman (1989)
Batman Returns (1992)
Beetlejuice
Beverly Hills Cop
Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure
Blade II
Blast of Silence (1961)
Bob Roberts
Boogie Nights
Boyz N The Hood
Braindead / Dead Alive (1992)
Charley Varrick
Coming To America
Confessions of a Dangerous Mind
Cool Runnings
Dogville
eXistenZ
Falling Down
A Fish Called Wanda
48 Hrs.
the Friends of Eddie Coyle
the Frighteners
the Game (1997)
Gattaca
Ginger Snaps
Glengarry Glen Ross
Goldeneye
the Graduate (1967)
a History of Violence
House Party (1990)
Human Nature (2001)
Hustle & Flow
Inland Empire
JFK
the Killing of A Chinese Bookie
King of New York (1990)
Kiss of the Spider Woman
LA Story
Life of Brian
the Limey
Little Big Man
Little Shop of Horrors (1982)
the Lonely Guy (1984)
Magnolia
the Mask (1994)
Meet The Feebles
Monty Python’s Meaning of Life
Naked Lunch
Once Upon A Time In America
Only the Lonely
Out of Sight
the Piano (1993)
Pleasantville
Punch-Drunk Love
Rashomon
Red Rock West
Richard III (1995)
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
Roxanne (1987)
the Shadow (1994)
Smoke (1995)
Soylent Green
Starship Troopers
Steamboy
Straw Dogs (1971)
the Three Musketeers (1993)
Tin Men
Tootsie
Training Day
the Truman Show
24 Hour Party People
Wall Street (1987)
Wayne’s World
Weather Woman (1995)
Weekend At Bernie’s
White Men Can’t Jump
A Woman Under the Influence
World’s Greatest Dad (2009)
Zebraman

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24 Hour Party People needs to stay at all costs…..yes I realize I just placed a target over its head.

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Marionette said on June 11th, 2010 at 9:25 am

Did Tijmen veto the entire list? I think it just goes to prove that however many people on the internet try to build a concensus, there’s always going to be some troll come along to screw it over.

Veto everything Tijmen added, even the stuff I like, because I’m that pissed off.

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Actually, no, I did not veto the entire list. I carefully went through it and removed only selectively. But hey, if you don’t want to follow that example, be my guest…troll.

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Also: my vetoing is proportionate to my adding – the same can’t be said for you, who threw out perfectly awesome flicks like ‘the Fly’ & ’12 Monkeys’ in favor of such thrilling fare as ‘Heathers’ & ‘Bride & Prejudice’.

Way to go in establishing *Geek Consesus*, puppet person! You’re just upset your mainstream movie wankfest got interrupted by someone with an actual shred of imagination & taste.

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Mister Alex said on June 11th, 2010 at 11:02 am

I never thought I’d see the day where The Big Crime Wave, Kitchen Party, Top of the Food Chain, and waydowntown were considered too mainstream for anybody. Indie Canadian cinema has made it big! Too bad it lacks any shred of imagination or taste; guess that’s what happens when it becomes a bloated corporate machine.

Veto:
Batman (1989)
Blade II
eXistenZ
Goldeneye
LA Story
The Mask (1994)
Red Rock West
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
Steamboy
Training Day

Add:
The God of Gamblers 2
Fong Sei Yuk
Gosford Park
Ghost World
Fast, Cheap, & Out of Control
Gates of Heaven
Hard Core Logo
Full Contact
Le Dernier Combat

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Marionette said on June 11th, 2010 at 3:07 pm

@Tijmen – yeah, I was playing nice with others and discussing the whole idea and you turn up late and drive a truck through it and I’m the troll. Sure.

And dissing other people’s choices? That’s not trollish at all.

But you’ve answered the central question of the debate for me, at least. No, there can’t be a consensus because there will always be some jerk come along and trash anything that he doesn’t fit his narrow views.

I’m outa here.

P.S. Twelve Monkeys was obvious and boring to me. But lots of people like it so I’m not going to be a jerk and insist it’s a bad movie.

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Much as I hate the fact that Tijem got rid of almost every movie worth watching on the list, I cannot in good conscience veto everything he added. Still, there are a mass of films here that certainly aren’t on my watch any time list. Most of the rest are films I haven’t seen and won’t veto on principle, but there are some good ones in there that deserve to be on the list.

Veto:
Batman (1989)
Batman Returns (1992)
Beetlejuice
Blade II
Bob Roberts
Boogie Nights
Boyz N The Hood
Braindead / Dead Alive (1992)
Dogville
eXistenZ
Falling Down
A Fish Called Wanda
48 Hrs.
Ginger Snaps
Glengarry Glen Ross
the Graduate (1967)
House Party (1990)
Hustle & Flow
JFK
King of New York (1990)
Meet The Feebles
Naked Lunch
Out of Sight
the Piano (1993)
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
the Shadow (1994)
Soylent Green
Straw Dogs (1971)
the Three Musketeers (1993)
Tootsie
the Truman Show
Wayne’s World
Weekend At Bernie’s
White Men Can’t Jump

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Candlejack said on June 11th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

Well, we’ve learned something important here. And that is that even if a single movie exists that everybody can agree on, there’s no way we’d want to sit down and watch that movie with everybody else on the Internet.

Veto the Accidental Tourist, the Bad Lieutenant – Port of Call, New Orleans, Beverly Hills Cop, Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure, Blast of Silence (1961), Coming To America, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, Cool Runnings, the Friends of Eddie Coyle, Kiss of the Spider Woman, the Limey, Little Big Man, the Lonely Guy (1984), Once Upon A Time In America, Only the Lonely, Pleasantville, Punch-Drunk Love, Rashomon, Richard III (1995), Roxanne (1987), Smoke (1995), Tin Men, 24 Hour Party People, Wall Street (1987), World’s Greatest Dad (2009)

Add D.E.B.S.

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Allegretto said on June 11th, 2010 at 11:15 pm

Amen Candlejack, Amen.

And kiss of the spider-woman was such an overrated flick. No spiders *or* women worth a damn in the whole thing.

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Candlejack said on June 12th, 2010 at 12:12 am

Here’s what I make out to be the current list, if anyone still feels like playing (no veto update this time; just don’t have the heart to do it):

Bagdad Café, A Better Tomorrow II, Blackadder’s Christmas Carol, Charley Varrick, Children of Heaven, Dark City, D.E.B.S, Le Dernier Combat, Desperado, Die Hard, Dirty Harry, Dr. No, Ed Wood, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Fast Cheap & Out of Control, A Fistful of Dollars, Fong Sei Yuk, For a Few Dollars More, the Frighteners, The Fountain, From Dusk Til Dawn, The Fugitive, Full Contact, Galaxy Quest, the Game (1997), Gates of Heaven, Gattaca, The God of Gamblers 2, Gosford Park, Hard Core Logo, The Heroic Trio, a History of Violence, Howl’s Moving Castle, Human Nature (2001), Inland Empire, Ipcress File, The Iron Giant, Iron Monkey, Jackie Brown, the Killing of A Chinese Bookie, Kung Fu Hustle, Life of Brian, Little Shop of Horrors (1982), Magnolia, Monty Python’s Meaning of Life, North by Northwest, O Brother Where Art Thou?, Planet of the Apes, Princess Monoloke, The Professional, Ran, Rear Window, The Rocketeer, Run Lola Run, Sanjuro, Seven, Shaolin Soccer, Starship Troopers, The Taking of Pelham 123 (original), Trading Places (1983), Weather Woman (1995), A Woman Under the Influence, Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, The Wicker Man (original), Zebraman

Ghost World was already on the veto list, Mister Alex; sorry.

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Starship Troopers is on the list? VETO!!! A thousand times VETO!!

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Allegretto said on June 12th, 2010 at 9:59 am

Who vetoed Ghost World? i searched for it but couldn’t find it.

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Candlejack said on June 12th, 2010 at 12:26 pm

JA145 knocked it off, way back around the time plok and Fantomex were discussing the merits of To Kill a Mockingbird.

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To be fair, neither he nor I discussed its merits — except that we both seem to agree Gregory Peck’s great in it.

Howl’s Moving Castle went out a long time ago, though, Candlejack. Hey, don’t shoot the messenger!

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Candlejack said on June 13th, 2010 at 12:35 pm

When? I saw it suggested twice, never saw it shot down. Note that I don’t really care, one way or the other, as I’ve never heard of it.

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Add:
Down With Love
Braveheart
Commando
The Dark Knight (Batman)

Veto:
Das Boot
A Clockwork Orange
Fargo

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