I’m trying to give Grimm a shot. It was midway through last season when I found out the lead was Dave Giutoli, who was on Road Rules back in 2003. Contrary to most of his castmates, Dave wasn’t an asshole at all. I had known he was acting, but I didn’t know he got a network show. I’m happy for the guy, and the show isn’t as bad as you make it out to be.
I can’t quite get over both networks that tried to develop a Fables tv series both ending up debuting an “original” series that basically ripped off Fables. I mean, if I was Willingham, I’d be pissed.
@Farwell3d: Yes, because Willingham invented the idea of mixing fairy tales and the real world. While “Fables” and “Once Upon a Time” both have a Fairy Tale Characters banished to the real world premise the execution is totally different. And “Grimm” doesn’t even have that in common, being much more similar to early seasons of “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” or “Supernatural”…
I watched the premiere of Grimm last year and was too annoyed at the protagonist’s stupidity to keep watching. Not the stupidity of not knowing he was in a horror series, but the stupidity of a cop who ignores basic safety procedures. E.G., despite his aunt having been attacked in the neighborhood, he entered a trailer to search for clues, turned his back to the door, which he left ajar IIRC, and got absorbed in reading. If the baddies had been paying attention, it would have been a very short series.
“The Abyss” is one of the rare times that I actually prefer the edited-for-theatres version.
In the theatrical version, after the prologue there’s a clean progression from the surface, to deep ocean, to even deeper, cumulating in Ed Harris at the bottom of some crazy deep big hole (is there a word for that?). So then when we finally re-emerge on the surface at the final scene, it’s hugely dramatic.
The director’s cut adds a bunch of really cheesy-looking surface-world catastrophe drama crap intercut with Ed Harris meeting the aliens, and it ruins all of that. Plus it hyper-spells-out the whole LOVE IS GOOD message, even more than the theatre version does.
I don’t always favour theatrical cuts, but when I do, it’s The Abyss. And, strangely enough, Aliens. Maybe it’s a Jimmy Cameron thing.
Actually, Guinness the records came from Guinness the beer. The book was started as a promotional giveaway for the purpose of settling (drunken) arguments.
I really like Grimm, the show changes half way through the season from a police procedural to a more arching story line about the wessen, the Grimms, some royal families. and some magic coins that can destroy the world. It’s still cheesy but I find it entertaining and fun.
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I’m trying to give Grimm a shot. It was midway through last season when I found out the lead was Dave Giutoli, who was on Road Rules back in 2003. Contrary to most of his castmates, Dave wasn’t an asshole at all. I had known he was acting, but I didn’t know he got a network show. I’m happy for the guy, and the show isn’t as bad as you make it out to be.
I can’t quite get over both networks that tried to develop a Fables tv series both ending up debuting an “original” series that basically ripped off Fables. I mean, if I was Willingham, I’d be pissed.
Also, Olympic. Withdrawal.
The fact that you like The Abyss makes you a good person.
There’s a “director’s cut” version of The Abyss? I need to find it somewhere…
@Farwell3d: Yes, because Willingham invented the idea of mixing fairy tales and the real world. While “Fables” and “Once Upon a Time” both have a Fairy Tale Characters banished to the real world premise the execution is totally different. And “Grimm” doesn’t even have that in common, being much more similar to early seasons of “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” or “Supernatural”…
I watched the premiere of Grimm last year and was too annoyed at the protagonist’s stupidity to keep watching. Not the stupidity of not knowing he was in a horror series, but the stupidity of a cop who ignores basic safety procedures. E.G., despite his aunt having been attacked in the neighborhood, he entered a trailer to search for clues, turned his back to the door, which he left ajar IIRC, and got absorbed in reading. If the baddies had been paying attention, it would have been a very short series.
“The Abyss” is one of the rare times that I actually prefer the edited-for-theatres version.
In the theatrical version, after the prologue there’s a clean progression from the surface, to deep ocean, to even deeper, cumulating in Ed Harris at the bottom of some crazy deep big hole (is there a word for that?). So then when we finally re-emerge on the surface at the final scene, it’s hugely dramatic.
The director’s cut adds a bunch of really cheesy-looking surface-world catastrophe drama crap intercut with Ed Harris meeting the aliens, and it ruins all of that. Plus it hyper-spells-out the whole LOVE IS GOOD message, even more than the theatre version does.
I don’t always favour theatrical cuts, but when I do, it’s The Abyss. And, strangely enough, Aliens. Maybe it’s a Jimmy Cameron thing.
Actually, Guinness the records came from Guinness the beer. The book was started as a promotional giveaway for the purpose of settling (drunken) arguments.
I saw the first episode of Grimm and never managed to work up the enthusiasm to watch another.
Is it still a poor quality police procedural with a twist and a genre-stupid protagonist?
I really like Grimm, the show changes half way through the season from a police procedural to a more arching story line about the wessen, the Grimms, some royal families. and some magic coins that can destroy the world. It’s still cheesy but I find it entertaining and fun.