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You yourself gave the reason why they will not turn Cena heel. Smarks, who are the most vocal fans on the internet, want Cena to be a heel. The millions of children (to say nothing of their moms), who are wrestling’s primary audience, and certainly the biggest market for its merchandise, want Cena to be a face.

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so what if he main evented 10 of 12 PPVs. He lost to the Rock, he nearly had his arm broken by Brock Lesnar, he lost to Ace when Big Show turned on him, he had a couple of wins for the WWE title stolen from him, when his chance for the pin in Triple Threats was stolen from him, he became the first guy not to win the WWE title when cashing in MiTB, missed a chance at the World Title MiTB briefcase, missed time with injury and accidentally cost a woman her job and seemingly helped her spiral deeper into insanity. After a year like that saying he didn’t have a terrible year is like saying a quarterback had a great year because he started 15 of 16 games and pay no attention to the results of those games.

and a heel turn being “enthusiastically welcomed” is a reason not to do it, since modern fans cheer anything they feel positive about, so it would simply result in the fanbase flipping.

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The millions of children (to say nothing of their moms), who are wrestling’s primary audience, and certainly the biggest market for its merchandise, want Cena to be a face.

Yes, this the reason to keep Cena a face. But my counter is this: all you’re doing is kicking the can down the road, because Cena will not be able to be the promotion’s top face forever. At some point, you need to take the plunge and have a WWE where John Cena is not a face; I would say it is better to turn him heel now, and hopefully re-energize the promotion (which would mitigate the merch sales hit), than simply wait it out.

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I say wait it out.

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J Bailey said on April 7th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

My idea. After Wrestlemania, just have Cena be gone for a year. Like the Trinity during DC 52 (not the DCnU52). The break will reset the crowd (mostly) and he can come back to much popularity.

Or not, fuck if I know how to fix it.

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@Jason Wait i out, see how it goes. 🙂

To also reference the Blog of Doom. This is why Cena will not turn heel… and I quote:

‘”I just don’t see me getting there in order to please a very small group of 30-year-olds. To be very honest with you, every single week I meet kids with life-threatening illnesses and they’ll tell me how much I mean to them, and their parents will tell me how inspirational I’ve been to their kids. We raised a million dollars last year for breast cancer. I’m helping spearhead the Hurricane Sandy relief fund at this year’s WrestleMania. I’ve been able to give back to the military in Tribute to the Troops. And I’m currently working on a program to help America shave 5 million pounds. All of this stuff I would have to stop if I was a “bad guy.” To be a bad guy, you actually have to be a bad guy. I just don’t have it in me, personally. So although you might get a great story out of it for nine months, doing it would just take away so much, and I don’t have that club in the bag.”

Link: http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/fandom/post/_/id/20444/wrestlemania-29-john-cena-talks-the-rock

So yeah. That’s a big ol’ no can do.

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J Bailey said on April 7th, 2013 at 3:13 pm

Here is my deal with Cena:

I don’t mind face Cena. I can’t stand babyface Cena.

Cena can still be a good guy, but this goodie two shoes act is getting old. Be a lil real, dirty him up a lil. I think this is what most people are asking for with him.

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the only time I’ve ever seen a good two shoes act from him is when he’s mocking the perception of him as a goody two shoes.

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Cena as a face isn’t the problem; the booking/writing of Cena as face is the problem.

It’s a given that the real John Cena is a loyal company man that spends countless hours doing charity work.

The character of John Cena is a smug prick who constantly talks about ‘Hustle, Loyalty & Respect’ but never demonstrates any of these qualities.

Jason pointed out all the loses Cena had this wrestling year but when did he ever act like those losses affected him? Cena, the character respects nothing and no one those losses didn’t phase him at all *poop joke poop joke*.

Maybe if John Cena wasn’t such a company man, if he was a little more Steve Austin, he’d veto some of the rubbish they tell him to do and make him say. Austin knew when it was time to clock out and walk out. I hope John Cena knows when that time is for him and doesn’t let the WWE machine keep running his ‘independently contracted’ into an early grave.

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Austin took his ball and went home. The next time he wrestled, less than a year later was a last match. I’ve heard an interview by Jim Ross saying that Austin was in so much pain he wasn’t sure he’d survive.

So his thing about being against just throwing Brock vs Austin out there with no build seems pretty weak, because he should have known he was almost done and there might not have been time for that build.

Meanwhile, in a business where people always want realism I think Cena is real when he shakes off losses. In how many pro sports does the starr QB get to say the team owner is out to get him and the refs screwed them. You get to use your last loss as motivation for your next win, you get to say you regret is happened and say you’ve got to do better next time. That’s all you can do. That’s what Cena does

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Jim’s WrestleMania post yesterday noted that “fans have been hoping that [John] Cena will turn heel since 2005″ and he isn’t wrong about that. Well, mostly not wrong. I was perfectly content to have Cena be a face

That’s why I didn’t say ALL fans have been hoping for a Cena heel turn, because I’m fine with face Cena too.

Cena makes more sense as a face because his whole character is being a friend to all children and standing up for what’s right. Turning him heel would be like turning Rey Mysterio heel–the motivations that make someone do evil things are completely absent from both characters.

The fans’ problem is that, after eight years of trying to force a Cena heel turn, they no longer even understand what heels are or how heel turns are supposed to work. When Cena came out on Raw last night and joked about doing a heel turn, I saw people on Tumblr actually believing this was how they would turn him heel. It’s like they think he’ll just punch a random babyface for no reason, and suddenly he’ll be the 2003 rapper Cena all over again.

WWE’s problem, on the other hand, is that they’ve lost sight of what faces are, which is why nobody over 25 actually likes any of the good guys. But that’s a whole other discussion.

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