Man, I used to love this show when it first aired, but now I can’t even bring myself to watch the re-runs. (Must be another case of an absolutely horrible final season souring you on the series as a whole, like ” Roseanne”.)
I would say it trends very mildly toward Neutral Good. Even Jackie and Kelso are more good than bad. But none of the characters have especially strong moral convictions (or vices), so even mild gradations in morality separate the alignments.
There is much more separation along the Lawful-Chaotic axis, though.
Like most post seinfeld shows everyone on this show is evil ( I think I’ve seen maybe 10 shows, liked them but never ended up getting caught up enough to see more), so anyway:
Lawful good lady boasts about being more intelligent than her husband who she keeps around to kill other beings – the mediocrity of evil.
neutral good kid is going to have premeditated premarital sex – horny evil.
Chaotic good girl is thanking god for being judgmental about everyone else she knows – mildly evil.
Lawful neutral dad says when you are tortured by the american government you must love big brother – very evil!
True neutral boy is watching porn thus helping in the degradation of women and generally being a pervert – pervy-evil.
Chaotic neutral supports the degradation of people based just on the fact that they are shorter than the norm – frat boy evil.
I have the theory that shows tend to lean towards the alignment of the primary focus character – UNLESS the show is about how that character changes their point of view over time, in which case the alignment of the other characters and the show as a whole lean the other way.
I agree with the whole “main character alignment informing show alignment” thing generally but I’m not sure it works here since the show loses its main character before it ends.
I kind of agree with “Main Character dictates the ideological pull”, though I think there are cases where certain groups on the show are far enough that they exhibit their own pull. In essence, you could get chaotic characters going towards evil while Neutral characters move towards good, and Lawful is just a crapshoot. You’d have to show one of those stat webs where you can have multiple points and valleys.
Interesting theory abaout the main character dictating the pull. That got me thinking: How would that work with series that have multiple main characters?
Consider Friends, for example. Depend on how you count, there’s 4 to 6 main characters (some people argue that Joey and Phoebe aren’t main characters, but big recurring ones). Who dictates the pull?
There are true ensemble shows, where the theory would not apply. I think Friends would likely be one of those. But I’d say 90% of fiction TV has a focal character.
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So, you’re telling me that 70’s Show leans towards Neutral Good (or maybe Chaotic Good) overall. But otherwise it’s a good chart.
Pretty accurate, yes.
Man, I used to love this show when it first aired, but now I can’t even bring myself to watch the re-runs. (Must be another case of an absolutely horrible final season souring you on the series as a whole, like ” Roseanne”.)
I would say it trends very mildly toward Neutral Good. Even Jackie and Kelso are more good than bad. But none of the characters have especially strong moral convictions (or vices), so even mild gradations in morality separate the alignments.
There is much more separation along the Lawful-Chaotic axis, though.
Like most post seinfeld shows everyone on this show is evil ( I think I’ve seen maybe 10 shows, liked them but never ended up getting caught up enough to see more), so anyway:
Lawful good lady boasts about being more intelligent than her husband who she keeps around to kill other beings – the mediocrity of evil.
neutral good kid is going to have premeditated premarital sex – horny evil.
Chaotic good girl is thanking god for being judgmental about everyone else she knows – mildly evil.
Lawful neutral dad says when you are tortured by the american government you must love big brother – very evil!
True neutral boy is watching porn thus helping in the degradation of women and generally being a pervert – pervy-evil.
Chaotic neutral supports the degradation of people based just on the fact that they are shorter than the norm – frat boy evil.
The rest of the evil people are all evil.
That’s actually a pretty apt comparison. Other than Roseanne having a cast that didn’t fall out of People Magazine, they were pretty similar shows.
I have the theory that shows tend to lean towards the alignment of the primary focus character – UNLESS the show is about how that character changes their point of view over time, in which case the alignment of the other characters and the show as a whole lean the other way.
@Bryan Rasmussen: Wow, having sex or watching porn is ‘evil’? Talk about vilifying sexuality. By your definitions, EVERYBODY is evil.
I agree with the whole “main character alignment informing show alignment” thing generally but I’m not sure it works here since the show loses its main character before it ends.
(Speaking of which…do one for Spin City!)
I kind of agree with “Main Character dictates the ideological pull”, though I think there are cases where certain groups on the show are far enough that they exhibit their own pull. In essence, you could get chaotic characters going towards evil while Neutral characters move towards good, and Lawful is just a crapshoot. You’d have to show one of those stat webs where you can have multiple points and valleys.
Oh, I like Beacon’s suggestion, and Spin City has more actual alignment variation than most sitcoms.
Interesting theory abaout the main character dictating the pull. That got me thinking: How would that work with series that have multiple main characters?
Consider Friends, for example. Depend on how you count, there’s 4 to 6 main characters (some people argue that Joey and Phoebe aren’t main characters, but big recurring ones). Who dictates the pull?
There are true ensemble shows, where the theory would not apply. I think Friends would likely be one of those. But I’d say 90% of fiction TV has a focal character.
Alignment chart for Kaiju!
Now I’m curious how charts for Roseanne would look. And for some reason, Scrubs.
The actress who played the Chaotic Evil older sister just died… real tragic.