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Thanks. Ennis has long been one of my favorite writers, and this little two-part mini kind of astonished me. He seemed to just get the main figures of the JLA and what their dynamic would be like when they’re not holding hands and singing Kumbaya. He seemed to get Daredevil, for that matter, and Spider-Man too.

(I will take a slight exception to “deeds not words,” being a Methodist myself — what attracted me to the church was its emphasis on social justice. This may just be my particular church, or the conference around these parts, but action is a big part, along with the study.)

I would pay a lot of money for that final page to hang on my wall.

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What I meant there, Ken, is that so far as I’ve always known one of the distinguishing features of Catholicism from the various strains of Protestantism is the requirement of demonstration of faith through good works. I’m not attempting to suggest that Protestant churches don’t do stuff – of course they do – but so far as action might be emphasized as a good idea in many sects, so far as I’m aware it’s not considred to be a required element.

Of course, I could be totally wrong.

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It was interesting, after so many misfires of late, to see Ennis writing so effortlessly again. I don’t think I’ve looked forward to a single issue of any comic as much as I did the second JLA/Hitman book. For me, it more than makes up for the nigh-unreadable Seven Brothers and Avatar Press stuff.

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CandidGamera said on October 25th, 2007 at 11:51 am

Ennis was unable to overcome his contempt for Kyle Rayner, to the extent of turning Wally’s light rivalry with Kyle into abject abuse. He seemed to have a handle on Superman and Batman, but the rest of the League was mischaracterized or not characterized at all.

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MGK: I hear ya. No big.

Dan: I’ve actually heard speculation that perhaps this mini had been sitting on the shelf for awhile, and only recently came out for… reasons unspecified. There’s no reason to weigh this rumor with anything like authenticity, but who knows, right? I will say McCrea’s art looked more mature than anything else of his I’ve seen, excepting possibly The Atheist.

Candid: I actually thought Kyle came off pretty good in this series, unlike Ennis’s previous treatment of him. He acts as a voice of reason, concerned about the more human angle in everything, which the more experienced members take to be a sign of naivete. And Superman’s and Wonder Woman’s exchange re: whether or not they’re soldiers/warriors was, I felt, deeply illuminating on both of them.

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And that’s why Ennis can write rings around most comic superhero writers when he feels like it.

You do realize that Roger Stern was writing passing references to the Kents praying in church a decade ago, right? I mean, Ennis isn’t exactly breaking incredible new ground with Superman here.

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Uh, Jim, Stern can also write rings around most comic superhero writers when he feels like it. The point isn’t that this is groundbreaking – the point is that this is effortlessly mature writing as regards his treatment of Superman.

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And yet, Garth Ennis’ work on Ghost Rider: Road to Damnation sucked donkey balls and was nearly as badly written as Hammer Lane was.

Maybe he writes as it lays, or maybe its because he can’t handle writing for a cultural mythology that doesn’t involve latent forms of Christianity.

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The little touch was so good (HOW GOOD WAS IT?) that you don’t even notice it until it’s past. Looking back, I’m surprised I didn’t even question Superman’s spiritual beliefs. It just seemed like the Right Thing To Do because the writer had a lead on the characterization.
Thanks.

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Well, can’t Luthor be a evil tycoon _and_ a mad scientist? After all, anyone bright enough to challenge Superman should be able to multi-task….

Bruce

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As long as no one makes Supes a Republican, I’m ok with him being Christian. You’re right. It only makes sense, regardless of what state Smallville is/was in. Having grown up in a small town in Pennsylvania myself, I can vouche for the continuity of it.

Also…depending on what age the writer is depicting Supes as, I can’t help but think he’d be loyal to what he’s known most of his life. That, and his love and loyalty to the Kents, would have him honoring the religion he was raised in.

Honestly, I do like the touch, but on the whole I feel religion/politics aren’t needed unless it is integral to the plot or character and should probably be left alone. However, the fact that this was shown in narrative boxes pushes the point that Supes’ religion is ultimately no one’s business but his.

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And here I just thought that line was Ennis riffing on a Pogues lyric. Specifically, from the end of “The Limerick Rake,” when the song asks the Rake’s children to “gather around and … offer a prayer to the Lord for the soul of their Father.” I like your interpretation better, though. I also liked the book, which surprised me, as I have become as tired of reading Ennis’s superhero work as he seems to be of writing it. Nothing against Ennis or his writing, it just seems that he can’t stand superheroes and when he writes them, it shows. In closing though, since I STRONGLY dislike Tycoon Luthor as a character concept, I would love to see you expand more on why you find this version of the character more fertile ground for stories than OG Mad Science Luthor.

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Rob McK, most of my exposure to DC characters has come through watching the cartoons. If those reflect how Luthor is portrayed in the comics fairly well, I’d say Tycoon Luthor is better, and here is why I think so.

For starters, impoverished evil geniuses aren’t much of a threat. So if Luthor or anybody else is going to build crap to aid in his or her supervillainy, it helps to have money.

Second, I find that villains who showcase little or no emotion and who aren’t easily rattled are scarier and better. That’s as opposed to villains who rant and rave, who obsess over getting their revenge on the hero, who throw tantrums when their plans fall apart. Tycoon Luthor is more of the former (although he has thrown the occasional undignified tantrum after everything went wrong for him), whereas I think Mad Scientist Luthor was more of the latter. One reason is that whenever a villain is seen venting like that, they are practically admitting to the world and those of us reading the book “Fuck, I’ve been defeated! Damn it all to hell, I’ve lost! I hate losing! Why can’t I ever win?!” It can be laughable, pitiful, or a combination of both. But if a villain just shrugs his shoulders and treats it as a minor setback, he doesn’t seem defeated. He still seems like he could be trouble, like maybe he’s got something up his sleeve that will be revealed later. It can make you a little worried.

Third, this is Superman we are talking about. You can build yourself a set of armour, you can stockpile as much kryptonite as you can scrape together, you can try to beat him physically. But in all likelihood, you will fail. Because, you know, he’s frickin’ Superman. Luthor does not want to face him one on one if he can help it, nor does anybody else with any brains.

If Luthor has money, if he can manipulate the system to his advantage as the Kingpin has done in the Marvel universe, Luthor is much more formidable.

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