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Obligatory “Rom was awesome” post.

Because he was.

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Who’s ROM

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Lister Sage said on April 29th, 2009 at 9:57 am

Quixim: A Spaceknight. (That’s all I got. I’m not real sure myself.)

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ROM, Spaceknight. Originally a toy, whose licensed comic appearances proved to have more lasting popularity.

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who’s powering the Wraiths? For my money, I’d guess that it’s someone who somehow gains power from their magic-fueled deaths, which means it’s probably someone really bad. Cthon? Mephisto? Satannish?

The obvious candidate is Nyarlathotep. At least, with the setup you outlined for the old Crawling Chaos in Reason #22, it sounds like this would be right up his alley.

Mephisto has the same problem you identified with Dormammu – he’s a joke and a doormat and everyone knows when he shows up, he’s going to get beaten (or he’s a plot device to mess with things, not a real threat). Chthon’s a decent possibility, though I’d imagine if it were him he’d be getting more than raw power from the Wraith’s deaths. Another possibility is Set, though it lacks his signature “snake motif” (which is actually a good thing, in my mind – Elder Gods really shouldn’t let themselves get so tied down to human symbolism like that).

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The Dire Wraiths are totally deserving of a comeback. I mean, here’s a race of creatures that gladly calls itself the Dire bleepin’ Wraiths, for crying out loud. They’re serious business.

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Craig Oxbrow said on April 29th, 2009 at 10:37 am

Poor old ROM. In an ideal world of properly settled accounts, we’d have Essential ROM reprints on the shelves and he’d be leading the Guardians of the Galaxy…

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Mephisto has the same problem you identified with Dormammu – he’s a joke and a doormat and everyone knows when he shows up, he’s going to get beaten (or he’s a plot device to mess with things, not a real threat).

That’s really just another compelling reason to “fix” him like MGK did with Dormammu. But after the whole Spider Man nonsense, I wouldn’t blame any comic book write for leaving Mephisto in the trash can of bad ideas.

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I vote that Craig’s idea is co-opted for this. And that the new Dire Wraith invasion is stopped by a Defenders/Guardians of the Galaxy team-up…

Also if future-lawyer boy figures out a way to bring ROM back from copyright limbo he deserves to write for the Big Two, exclusive of how bad-ass his ideas are…

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Lister Sage said on April 29th, 2009 at 11:37 am

Ok, here’s my question: Given that the events of Annihilation: Conquest got started by a group of Phalanx infected Spaceknights where does that leave Rom? Granted, it’s not like the Knights are always together at the same time, but Annihilation stated that there weren’t a lot of Spaceknights left. Where has he been? Why didn’t he show up during Annihilation? You can’t tell me Marvel couldn’t come up with a way to get around the copyright issue. Even his Wiki proves that Marvel’s done it a couple of times.

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“But wait,” some continuity nerd out there says, “the Dire Wraiths lost their magic abilities when ROM transported Wraithworld into Limbo.”

How does one lose their ability to ask eldritch, arcane demigods for favors? Is Limbo a magical dead zone like Herbert’s Taco Hut?

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Cookie McCool said on April 29th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

Aww, they’re kinda cute and squawky-looking. Has anybody ever tried defeating them by playing dress up with them?

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Well, if said eldritch gods get shot to hell by ROM, they aren’t gonna be able to do much.

And, once again, analogies work wonders.

Lets compare dark magic to mob ties. If you know, say, Jimmy the weasel and Johnny tight lips Mcgee, you can get some stuff done. You wind up in the clink, you’re still going to be able to have strings pulled in your favor.

If, however, both Jimmy and Johnny get a new pair of cement overshoes, then you can’t ask either of them for favors any more.

It’s like that, only with the mobsters replaced with dark gods and evil planets, and the cement shoes replaced with Spaceknights.

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Mark Temporis said on April 29th, 2009 at 12:24 pm

How would you work the science/magic Wraith genius? The science and magic Wraiths were two seperate species, kind of.

The patriarchial, science-based Dire Wraiths were kinda cute, in a sort of evil Michelin Man way. You could play dress-up with those.

The matriarchial, magic-based Wraiths were pretty frickin’ horrible-looking. Also, they didn’t just duplicate you like the Skrulls or puffy Wraiths: no–THEY DRILLED INTO YOUR BRAIN AND SUCKED OUT ALL YOUR MEMORIES before duping you!

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Could someone give me a brief once-over on the copyright issue(s) Rom is suffering from? How could we not use the image, but still use the character?

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HitTheTargets said on April 29th, 2009 at 12:44 pm

ROM, The Greatest of the Spacewizards! He traded his humanity, again, for powerful mystic armor. It’s totally different from being a cyborg; you can tell because it looks only slightly different!

He gets +2 to Detect Wraith (Dire), can Translate three times a day, and wields a Vorpal Neutralizer.

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Barring corrections by those with better legal knowledge than I, I think it’s more a matter of trademark than copyright, and that Marvel no longer has license to use the likeness of the Rom Spaceknight armor, but could still use the human-ified Rom or possibly give him a new set of armor that looks different enough from the toy that it would circumvent the issue.

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Now if they could only do that with Charcoal from Exiles.

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Crap.. I meant Thunderbolts

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Lister Sage said on April 29th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

Zenrage: I think you’ve inadvertently found the solution to your problem.

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Doctor Hal said on April 29th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

Like Naked Snake and Naked Jehuty before him, Naked Rom shall be a powerful, yet wholly unstable force to be reckoned with.

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Cookie McCool said on April 29th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

There is no evil that dress-up can’t fix, sciencey adorable Dire Wraiths or magicy icky Dire Wraiths. A nice pink boa and bedazzled stilettos fix EVERYTHING.

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Lister Sage said on April 29th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

Cookie McCool: I am positive this is the kind of thing written of in the Necronomicon.

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Cookie McCool said on April 29th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

Ok, ew, I just looked up pictures, and it hurts me deeply to admit maybe there are some things glitter CAN’T fix. (For some reason, I was picturing something lich-ier, if you know what I mean?)

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Yup.

They’re the most terrifying thing Walt Simonson could come up with, then they added a tongue that drills into your brain.

You know, standard toy tie in stuff.

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Yeah, the original Dire Wraiths were what you’d imagine the cranky grandfather of the Pillsbury Doughboy to be. I’m not sure what sort of description you could give for the later ones, but it would have to involve a substantial perusal of the Japanese demon-meets-schoolgirl animated genre.

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Hell if ROM can kick back in South Park’s Imaginationland, I see no reason why he can’t be hanging out with the Guardians…

And yay for finding an entire race empowered by dark magicks for Strange to contend with.

The FF gets Skrulls…

Strange gets the Dire Wraiths.

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I see you’re done with the foreplay.

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Interesting.

It seems to me that an alternate Dr. Strange or other mystical baddie is manipulating this whole thing from the dark, waiting for his turn after throwing baddie and baddie at this world’s Dr. Strange.

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How does one lose their ability to ask eldritch, arcane demigods for favors? Is Limbo a magical dead zone like Herbert’s Taco Hut?

No, but the sorcerous Dire Wraiths never had to bother doing such things before – they were able to power all their spells by using the energy from the dark sun of their world, a unique magical energy source. Once it was gone, they didn’t know what to do to cast spells any more – one of the downsides of having a fairly unique advantage.

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Although the battle is all but lost, I do feel compelled to note what “beg the question” actually means.

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For Imaginationland, marvinmartian, they actually changed most characters enough to avoid being sued. Theoretically they were already defensible as parody, but them’s the breaks.

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marvinthemartian – your Skrull reference is more appropriate than you might realize; Dire Wraiths *are* sorcerously-distorted Skrulls.

Skrull:Dire Wraith : : Human:Vampire

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