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I disagree; the ability (and willingness!) to perform accurate Gir impressions is a precious trait that I look for whenever I want to date a woman.

Note: I am extremely single.

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“Like how we were shown that in the comic on 31 January where Marcy said that Khan didn’t share any of her interests in nerd stuff, you mean?

No “might” coming into play there, Kai.”

You mean the strip where Khan is shown looking at Marcy playing a video game with a question mark over his head? Khan isn’t dismissing Marcy’s hobbies, Khan doesn’t get Marcy’s hobbies. That’s a pretty important distinction. We don’t see Marcy trying to introduce Khan to her pastimes and Khan going “ew, what, nerd stuff? This is dumb?” All we see is a guy that just doesn’t “get” nerdery.

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Yes, Kai, I mean the comic where Khan is staring in befuddlement at Marcy, wondering why she wants to waste her time playing videogames. If that had been meant to show that he as open to trying new things, it would have shown him, y’know, trying something rather than standing there with a question mark over his head.

The only time we see him planning to try any of Marcy’s hobbies is after she rejected him, in order to creep his way back into having her as his girlfriend.

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Because as we all know “standing there in puzzlement” is the universal shorthand for “being dismissive of someone’s hobbies.”

The artist had to tell us instead of showing us because what they were showing wasn’t some guy putting Marcy down, it was some guy being like “Huh? I don’t get it.” That’s not some mortal sin, but it’s not good storytelling either. Khan doesn’t have his “oooh I’m a creepy supervillain wannabe” moment until after all that is said and done.

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Having Marcy talk about how Khan had no interst in the things she is interested in, in the same panel where he’s staring in puzzlement at her playing a game, is a long accepted storytelling method.

As for the timing of his supervillain moment, thank you for agreeing with me that he only showed interest in nerd stuff after she rejected him.

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Seriously, “has no interest in/puzzled by” is not the same thing as “putting someone down for liking a thing” which is what was being asserted earlier in this discussion. I mean, am I taking crazy pills here? That seems like a pretty clear-cut distinction to me, that “doesn’t get something” =/= “dismissing something.” If the artist was intending to convey the latter then they did a shitty job of it. Khan comes off as a guy who just doesn’t really seem to get nerd-stuff the same way some people don’t get sports or crochet or whatever, and then there’s a last minute asspull where it turns out whoops, he was a creepy supervillain [i]all along[/i], thus completely justifying Marcy’s decision to go back to Francis after all.

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Putting someone down for not liking a thing is neither the same as having no interest in it, nor is it what I have said Khan was doing. You’re the one trying to conflate “dismissing the interest” with “putting down those interested in it” here in order to avoid admitting that you were mistaken about anything in any of your posts.

Which might be less annoying if you hadn’t been constantly moving the goalposts throughout the discussion. But I do find it amusing that you’ve gone from saying that you’re “not going to tsk and shake my finger at the writer not providing a completely realistic portrayal of how that process usually works” to now complaining that “The artist had to tell us instead of showing”. Could you please pick one line of argument and stick with it rather than make arguments that contradict each other?

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