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Brad Reed said on July 22nd, 2008 at 10:37 am

“Corporations flocked to Rimbor to maximize their profit potential by having a corporate base where law could be reformed at will…”

In the United States, that would be Delaware.

I’m just sayin’.

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In the United States, that would be Delaware.

I’m just sayin’.

I think you mean Texas.

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Jeff Morris said on July 22nd, 2008 at 11:00 am

Your concept of Rimbor sounds a great deal like New Hong Kong in Phil Foglio’s “Buck Godot, Zap Gun for Hire” series. I don’t know if he’s put the page describing the city on his website, but basically, it has only one law: “There shall be no laws on New Hong Kong”.

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Chris Russell said on July 22nd, 2008 at 11:01 am

“How do you write Delaware so well?” she asked.

“I think of Texas… then take away sales tax and accountability.”

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quelonio said on July 22nd, 2008 at 11:17 am

Cool concept, as usual.

I hope you get well soon.

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Damn, man. Great stuff. Next time I’m at a DC con panel, I’m definitely bringing up the potential of you writing the Legion.

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So it’s the Libertarian planet, then?

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your vision for Rimbor sounds like your average, run-of-the-mill Third World Country, complete with “laws that are only suggestions”, with a black market where you can get anything and everything you want for a price, and political systems that undergo major upheavals every decade or so due to the prevalence of personality politics.

I should know, I’m from one of them.

which creates a very interesting situation, if the United Planets’ policy on Rimbor is simply “hands off”, where does that leave the presumably poverty-stricken masses of the planet?

Moreover, where’s the 30th Century equivalent to Bono?

very interesting indeed.

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Chris, there isn’t much in terms of accountability to take away from Texas in the first place.

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Based on MDK’s writeup here, I see Rimbor less as a Third World nation and more akin to Night City from Gibson’s [i]Neuromancer[/i] — a place where laws are unenforced and crime goes hand in hand with technological development, precisely because it is in these unregulated areas that a kind of Darwinism of R&D comes about.

If a technology comes out of Rimbor, odds are that it works far better than it has any right to, and comes from a direction that is oblique to any other kind of development. (It’s also sketchy as hell ethically-speaking, but so what?)

I mean, let’s say you had to go to war with Colu, for whatever reason. You can’t out-think them or out-tech them, they’re a planet of geniuses. But you *can*, technologically speaking, ambush them in a dark alley and club them on the back of the head.

*That’s* Rimbor.

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Brad Reed said on July 22nd, 2008 at 2:16 pm

Rimbor would be the planet that makes lots of small, clever solutions but is incapable of handling big ones. Since backstabbing and lookin-out-for-numero-uno are the two most popular sports on the planet, large-scale cooperation would be difficult. You’d have lots of individual smart people working very hard. So rather than the vast, mindblowing breakthroughs of the Coluans, you’d have a bajillion breakthroughs that are as impressive as one or two people can create. Rimbor won’t make a new stardrive, but damn, they’d make some really impressive pocket-sized zap rays.

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Sofa King said on July 22nd, 2008 at 3:57 pm

So what crime did Ultra Boy commit that these people would want him dead?

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I was thinking more along the lines of that freaky optical virus the Federation cooked up to trash the Borg in TNG. It’s devious, underhanded, probably unethical, and utterly out of left field.

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“So what crime did Ultra Boy commit that these people would want him dead?”

It doesn’t sound like you need to commit a crime on Rimbor for someone to want you dead. Ignoring, of course, that optional laws makes crime an impossibility by definition.

“So it’s the Libertarian planet, then?”

Hardly. If it were the Libertarian planet, everyone would be dead.

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So, not so much the Third World as Dubai? Interesting.

What’s the image from?

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Dubai doesn’t have the same kind of personality-based political system that third world countries have.

Then again, there is no country with a personality-based political system, flexible laws, and a thriving black market that’s ALSO one of the richest.

unless of course you consider the US.

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Dunno who did the image, but the vehicle parked on the platform at the right is a Colonial Raptor from Battlestar Galactica.

A fine choice, because TV spaceships treat the laws of physics as optional all the time.

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I’d like to see the Rimbor concept combined with George RR Martin’s original “Salvation Run” concept…

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metaphysician said on September 25th, 2008 at 12:46 pm

IOW, Rimbor is basically the UP’s answer to Jackson’s Whole ( from the Bujold novels ). And it exists because its too useful to the rest of society to be worth destroying ( if nothing else, having a central black market hub allows the law-abiding to better monitor the underworld ).

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FurikoMaru said on January 29th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

Goddamnit, you took my idea! *shuffles heaps of paper around to plan out new villain origin story*

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