As a dog owner, and an animal lover I so thoroughly, completely and utterly object to killing a perfectly healthy dog just so that some scientists somewhere can say, “hey look, we put one dog’s face on another dog! And now, for our next trick…”
Hubris is a dangerous thing…what’s next: mutant virus and zombie apocalypse?
While I appreciate that most science is dedicated to pushing back the boundaries of human knowledge, and finding new ways to use that knowledge to benefit the human race, I prefer to believe that 98 per cent of it is scientists smoking a lot of pot and going: “Hey, guys, wouldn’t it be awesome if, like, most of the universe was invisible? And all the shit we can see is, like, completely defined and shaped by this cosmic… dark… matter shit that we can’t see?”
This, to me, helps explain a lot of stuff that happens (“Dude, this could, like, destroy the entire universe and create a new one in its place!” “Awesome. Let’s collide some hadrons.”*) – scientists doing stuff just because they can.
Sometimes it leads to cool stuff, like the psychic robo monkey. Sometimes… it leads to fucked up nightmare shit.
“So, we killed a dog, cut off its face, and stuck it on another dog. Which was only half blind for, like, six months.”
“Why?”
“I don’t know. It might help us cut people’s faces off and stick them on each other. Which, okay, will involve somebody dying every time you want a new look, but hey, omelettes and eggs.”
In short: Ew, gross.
* Yes, I know that this is A) a grotesque oversimplification and B) not actually a possibility. But that’s how the press presented it.
I really hate to have to be the one to defend apparent animal cruelty, but that article is missing several key pieces of information that are necessary to make a judgement. The first two:
1. Why did the first dog need a transplant?
2. What was the second dog’s condition? Was it sick or about to die anyway?
We don’t necessarily know that they took a health dog and slaughtered it for MAD SCIENCE (thunder, lightning in background). We do not know this because it is a shitty article.
Seriously. This is a terribly written article. Fuck the Sun.
It’s owned by Rupert Murdoch, so I think that’s something we can all agree on.
“Oh, look, they’ve made fantastic advances in reconnective facial surgery”, he thought, ignoring the people who assume science is meant for poo and giggles.
I think you guys are making a bigger deal of this than it should be. Firstly, consider the ideal. Growing skin in a lab for grafting onto burn victims or peopel with otherwise horribly disfigurement on the face. No one would have a problem with that. Now obviously, you want to test it on animals first, no human in their right mind would ever volunteer. So now, scientists decided to test on a dog. They got another dog, and had to take its facial skin. One thing I have no idea of is why they killed the dog, since taking havles of faces of both and switching wouldve allowed 2 subjects instead of one for more results, and would have caused much less outrage. That said, it’s more humane to kill the dog then let it live WITHOUT a face, and maybe they just didnt have the resources to keep both dogs for months on end. Anyway, tons of dogs die on the street all the time, and its better to go for science, while anesthatized than starve on a street. And if we DIDN’T do these things we would never learn how to graft faces on humans down the road.
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They couldn’t find another Beagle for the transplant?
“Sadly it meant his pal had to DIE?!!!”
WTF?!!
As a dog owner, and an animal lover I so thoroughly, completely and utterly object to killing a perfectly healthy dog just so that some scientists somewhere can say, “hey look, we put one dog’s face on another dog! And now, for our next trick…”
Hubris is a dangerous thing…what’s next: mutant virus and zombie apocalypse?
It’s like a dog version of Tezuka’s Black Jack. Wow.
While I appreciate that most science is dedicated to pushing back the boundaries of human knowledge, and finding new ways to use that knowledge to benefit the human race, I prefer to believe that 98 per cent of it is scientists smoking a lot of pot and going: “Hey, guys, wouldn’t it be awesome if, like, most of the universe was invisible? And all the shit we can see is, like, completely defined and shaped by this cosmic… dark… matter shit that we can’t see?”
This, to me, helps explain a lot of stuff that happens (“Dude, this could, like, destroy the entire universe and create a new one in its place!” “Awesome. Let’s collide some hadrons.”*) – scientists doing stuff just because they can.
Sometimes it leads to cool stuff, like the psychic robo monkey. Sometimes… it leads to fucked up nightmare shit.
“So, we killed a dog, cut off its face, and stuck it on another dog. Which was only half blind for, like, six months.”
“Why?”
“I don’t know. It might help us cut people’s faces off and stick them on each other. Which, okay, will involve somebody dying every time you want a new look, but hey, omelettes and eggs.”
In short: Ew, gross.
* Yes, I know that this is A) a grotesque oversimplification and B) not actually a possibility. But that’s how the press presented it.
I hope Rex themotherfucking Wonderdog gives those chinese scientfucks what they deserve.
Geez, it’s Harvey Dent’s dog.
I hope the coin comes up tails so he can eviscerate those mad scientists over there.
“No more drugs for that dog.”
I really hate to have to be the one to defend apparent animal cruelty, but that article is missing several key pieces of information that are necessary to make a judgement. The first two:
1. Why did the first dog need a transplant?
2. What was the second dog’s condition? Was it sick or about to die anyway?
We don’t necessarily know that they took a health dog and slaughtered it for MAD SCIENCE (thunder, lightning in background). We do not know this because it is a shitty article.
Seriously. This is a terribly written article. Fuck the Sun.
It’s owned by Rupert Murdoch, so I think that’s something we can all agree on.
“Oh, look, they’ve made fantastic advances in reconnective facial surgery”, he thought, ignoring the people who assume science is meant for poo and giggles.
WTF?! Talk about cruelty to animals!!! PETA is soo gonna be all over this!
I think you guys are making a bigger deal of this than it should be. Firstly, consider the ideal. Growing skin in a lab for grafting onto burn victims or peopel with otherwise horribly disfigurement on the face. No one would have a problem with that. Now obviously, you want to test it on animals first, no human in their right mind would ever volunteer. So now, scientists decided to test on a dog. They got another dog, and had to take its facial skin. One thing I have no idea of is why they killed the dog, since taking havles of faces of both and switching wouldve allowed 2 subjects instead of one for more results, and would have caused much less outrage. That said, it’s more humane to kill the dog then let it live WITHOUT a face, and maybe they just didnt have the resources to keep both dogs for months on end. Anyway, tons of dogs die on the street all the time, and its better to go for science, while anesthatized than starve on a street. And if we DIDN’T do these things we would never learn how to graft faces on humans down the road.
And if we DIDN’T do these things we would never learn how to graft faces on humans down the road.
Uh… Yeah.
Of course this is probably going to improve their skills, but it still comes across as freaky and gross. They haven’t really done anything new.