I was gonna bust you for taking the Bueller bit from Metafilter, but that wasn’t the popular bit, it was the question about “what crimes could Buelle. Be charged with.”
Gee, I hope that link works, instead of just sitting there, looking ugly.
Better Off Ted got a second season? Hooray! I’ve missed a number of episodes, but what I saw was really good.
What I love about the Simpsons is no matter how bad an episode is it’s always got at least one joke I always get a good laugh out of. Case in point:
Armin: And I’m not Seymour. My name is Armin. This is Armin’s apartment, Armin’s liquor, Armin’s copy of “Swank”, Armin’s frozen peas.
Homer: Can I see your copy of “Swank”, Armin?
Which always gets me because Marge is standing right there in the room.
Don’t remember the episdoe this happens in, but at one point Lisa is telling her new cat that we’ll refer to you as Snowball 2 for simplicity’s sake. Skinner overhears this and calls out Lisa on it being a cheap way to keep the status quo, and Lisa calls him Temzarian. To which he replys Touche. No real point to this other than they did get a good joke out of it in a later episode. Sorry for rambling.
Ha! I knew you couldn’t end that paragraph without making a “Steve Paikin is a robot” joke. I’m hip to your tricks, Bird! Besides, everyone knows Paikin is actually a Vulcan.
I don’t think “The Principal and the Pauper” is by any means a bad episode, it’s just one of two episodes from that season (the other being the Frank Grimes episode) that pushed the Simpsons over the cliff, conceptually. Those were both legitimately daring, envelope-pushing comedic conceits which more or less represented the culmination of the creative drive that had powered The Simpsons for so long. But they basically broke the show, because we couldn’t go back to the usual Springfield hijinks after something that crazy. It would be like Seinfeld trying to have another season after they were all carted off to jail at the finale–the tone, and our perspective on the characters, had just changed too much to continue on as before.
So it’s basically a rare case of “jumping the shark” coming from something that was actually good, but too much of a game-changer.
Really? I find the Home Run Derby even DULLER than the ASG due to how they’ve made everything now for the hitters. I’d be more interested in watching fielding drills, bunting contests, triple contest, ANYTHING else.
I don’t think “The Principal and the Pauper” is by any means a bad episode, it’s just one of two episodes from that season (the other being the Frank Grimes episode) that pushed the Simpsons over the cliff, conceptually.
Man, I hated the ending of that episode with Grimes.
I thought we didn’t talk about The Principal and The Pauper, on penalty of torture.
I no longer reside in Springfield, thus I am finally free to spread the word.
The one with Grimey had good set-up and the best, most subtle use of genre awareness I can recall, but man, that ending was some dark friggin’ humor. I think there was also a good one later with Frank Grimes Jr.?
Anyway, we all know the show really jumped the shark with Who Shot Mr. Burns?.
I think there was also a good one later with Frank Grimes Jr.?
Yeah, it was where his son (by a hooker) was trying to kill Homer and Sideshow Bob was released from prison in order to help figure out who was targeting Homer, since he knew a little something about the minds of homicidal maniacs.
I disagree about when it jumped, though. I think Season 14 was the first year where we got more lame episodes than good ones.
Rob- No, Oakley/Weinstein’s last two episodes (Grimes, Tamzarian) were the Shark Jumping. Jumping the shark is not so much the point at which something started to suck, it’s when it hit a certain note that signified that THINGS ARE DIFFERENT, and that THERE IS NO TURNING BACK.
Now, this often coincides with the end of quality in a series, but sometimes it’s just that it’s the event/episode/story that marks the derailment of the show from what it was before the shark jumping.
I really don’t think that’s where Simpsons jumped the shark. I personally liked the episode and thought most of the episodes of that series and even the next were still fairly good.
The first episode I noticed where it was no longer the show it once was and when I consider it jumping the shark was the Spring Break episode. That one where Homer was stressed and they went to Florida, but it was Spring Break. Then Kid Rock was there. Then they killed the crocodile. Then they became rednecks. Then they were part of chain gang. Then they got away somehow. I really hate that episode.
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I can see the Ferris Bueller thing, and the second part might actually make it a better movie.
I’m confused on the Simpsons rerun- is this bed episode the best of the week, or did it get picked because it’s so amazingly bad?
Oh.
I was gonna bust you for taking the Bueller bit from Metafilter, but that wasn’t the popular bit, it was the question about “what crimes could Buelle. Be charged with.”
Gee, I hope that link works, instead of just sitting there, looking ugly.
Better Off Ted got a second season? Hooray! I’ve missed a number of episodes, but what I saw was really good.
What I love about the Simpsons is no matter how bad an episode is it’s always got at least one joke I always get a good laugh out of. Case in point:
Armin: And I’m not Seymour. My name is Armin. This is Armin’s apartment, Armin’s liquor, Armin’s copy of “Swank”, Armin’s frozen peas.
Homer: Can I see your copy of “Swank”, Armin?
Which always gets me because Marge is standing right there in the room.
Don’t remember the episdoe this happens in, but at one point Lisa is telling her new cat that we’ll refer to you as Snowball 2 for simplicity’s sake. Skinner overhears this and calls out Lisa on it being a cheap way to keep the status quo, and Lisa calls him Temzarian. To which he replys Touche. No real point to this other than they did get a good joke out of it in a later episode. Sorry for rambling.
solid snake: Your thinking of “I, (Annoyed Grunt)-Bot”.
MGK,
I am curious. What do you think of Warehourse 13 and the Season premiere of Eureka?
Well, I liked the jokes, but I agree with everybody who thinks it was a dumb idea to have Skinner turn out to be an impostor from the beginning.
I thought we didn’t talk about The Principal and The Pauper, on penalty of torture.
Ah, the Fight Club reading of Ferris Bueller’s Day Off.
Ha! I knew you couldn’t end that paragraph without making a “Steve Paikin is a robot” joke. I’m hip to your tricks, Bird! Besides, everyone knows Paikin is actually a Vulcan.
I don’t think “The Principal and the Pauper” is by any means a bad episode, it’s just one of two episodes from that season (the other being the Frank Grimes episode) that pushed the Simpsons over the cliff, conceptually. Those were both legitimately daring, envelope-pushing comedic conceits which more or less represented the culmination of the creative drive that had powered The Simpsons for so long. But they basically broke the show, because we couldn’t go back to the usual Springfield hijinks after something that crazy. It would be like Seinfeld trying to have another season after they were all carted off to jail at the finale–the tone, and our perspective on the characters, had just changed too much to continue on as before.
So it’s basically a rare case of “jumping the shark” coming from something that was actually good, but too much of a game-changer.
Really? I find the Home Run Derby even DULLER than the ASG due to how they’ve made everything now for the hitters. I’d be more interested in watching fielding drills, bunting contests, triple contest, ANYTHING else.
Home run derby = terrible. I really wanted to watch some baseball last night, and that did not freaking count.
And thanks for showing Better Off Ted some love. Man, I wish mine was a Nielsen household.
Man, I hated the ending of that episode with Grimes.
I no longer reside in Springfield, thus I am finally free to spread the word.
The one with Grimey had good set-up and the best, most subtle use of genre awareness I can recall, but man, that ending was some dark friggin’ humor. I think there was also a good one later with Frank Grimes Jr.?
Anyway, we all know the show really jumped the shark with Who Shot Mr. Burns?.
Yeah, it was where his son (by a hooker) was trying to kill Homer and Sideshow Bob was released from prison in order to help figure out who was targeting Homer, since he knew a little something about the minds of homicidal maniacs.
I disagree about when it jumped, though. I think Season 14 was the first year where we got more lame episodes than good ones.
Rob- No, Oakley/Weinstein’s last two episodes (Grimes, Tamzarian) were the Shark Jumping. Jumping the shark is not so much the point at which something started to suck, it’s when it hit a certain note that signified that THINGS ARE DIFFERENT, and that THERE IS NO TURNING BACK.
Now, this often coincides with the end of quality in a series, but sometimes it’s just that it’s the event/episode/story that marks the derailment of the show from what it was before the shark jumping.
I really don’t think that’s where Simpsons jumped the shark. I personally liked the episode and thought most of the episodes of that series and even the next were still fairly good.
The first episode I noticed where it was no longer the show it once was and when I consider it jumping the shark was the Spring Break episode. That one where Homer was stressed and they went to Florida, but it was Spring Break. Then Kid Rock was there. Then they killed the crocodile. Then they became rednecks. Then they were part of chain gang. Then they got away somehow. I really hate that episode.